Newbie 2067 - Pizza! - End!

[StrangeMatter]

Right now, I don't really see a good reason for scum to defend one another very early on. It might be that they picked a risky route, but I doubt they'll defend each other.

[HockeyFan]

Yea thats fair enough, we might have different experiences on that topic. From my experience, most mafia like to align very subtly on d1 but that could be a different meta on this site. Sorry if the read came off as "You are mafia with Luke and nothing can change that"

[Haschel Cedricson]

Strange Matter is the scummier one right now but STD is very close to being as scummy Strange rn(although as of right now, the read on STD can change a ton based on their next few posts, unlike the Strange SR from me rn)

Can you restate why Strange is scum?

Based off your questions for me, and likely the start that I had early on.

Please do not answer questions that weren't specifically addressed to you. I don't care about what your answer to the question is; I do care very much that you spoonfed Hockey an answer before he had a chance to answer it for himself.

Yea sorry about that should have clarified, the arrows in between STD and Strange dont necessarily mean "This person is wayyyyy scummier". I just used that list as "possible 3 scum fmpov". That list is interchangeable especially STD and Strange

This doesn't make sense. As far as I can tell your case on STD is dependent on STD being Strange's scumbuddy. If Strange isn't scum then you shouldn't still be thinking STD is scum based on what you've presented so far.

[HockeyFan]

When did I ever say Strange isn't scum? I still do think Luke,Strange and STD are possible scum here with some pairs of STD/Strange and Luke/Strange

[Haschel Cedricson]

So is your list interchangeable or not?

[cyrus62]

VOTE: hockeyfan you real sem to be freaking out. 3 scums? its a 2 scum game for newbie.

[HockeyFan]

So is your list interchangeable or not?

Pretty much, It is, but the position of Luke will LIKELY not change due to him being individually scummier

[Haschel Cedricson]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: hockeyfan you real sem to be freaking out. 3 scums? its a 2 scum game for newbie.

I am no idea what this means? If I find 3 scummy people in a game with 2 mafia, how does that make a difference. The list there is of POSSIBLE mafia. Ofc, from my pov, as of rn 2 of those 3 are mafia and there are certain pairs within these 3 which I have highlighted in 128

[HockeyFan]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

Whats the point of putting me at E-1 so early?

[Azeru]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

Please for the love of god announce that

this vote puts HockeyFan at E-1

[Haschel Cedricson]

Unvote

Fair point, I forgot Newbie games are 9 players now.

[cyrus62]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

Please for the love of god announce that

this vote puts HockeyFan at E-1

or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.

[StrangeMatter]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

I really need to ask this, but why did you push HockeyFan earlier? Just wondering.

[cyrus62]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

I really need to ask this, but why did you push HockeyFan earlier? Just wondering.

pressure works wonders you never know one could slip

[Haschel Cedricson]

Unvote, Vote HockeyFan

I really need to ask this, but why did you push HockeyFan earlier? Just wondering.

His stated feelings about STD and you aren't quite consistent, and he's keeping the names out there without actually doing any investigating.

[StrangeMatter]

@cyrus62 can you share some reads right now?

[cyrus62]

@cyrus62 can you share some reads right now?

reads on 1st 6 pages when we havent even passed one day in rl no i like pressure and to poke and see will it leads me.

[HockeyFan]

Speaking of reads, can I hear more from Azeru/Pawoski? I don't have anything on these 2(mainly Pawoski) since they've posted about combined 10 times

[Lukewarm]

This lobby has an interesting vibe. I am used to the first like 5+ pages of a game being mostly just RVS votes and kinda chatting and getting a feel for people, but there are several people pushing for everyone to have scum reads already.

Maybe this is coming from different experiences off site, with a faster pace / shorter game days? Not sure.

[Lukewarm]

What is wrong with partnery reads? Imo you and Luke were paired because of his post #24

I guess this stance confuses me? The first several pages are about chatting, so I was taking part in the conversation at the time. I can and will interject in plenty of conversations.

I saw Strange make a rvs vote, then someone asked them why they voted that person. But it was the rvs phase of the game, no one has real reasons on literally the 11th post of the thread.

I am just not unsure why you would read 24, and think oh, that is a scum defending his partner.

Do you really think that I saw my partner make an RVS vote, then someone ask why they voted that person, and in that moment I thought my partner needed defending there?

[Lukewarm]

This is fun... D1 is wild

D1 is always wild imo.

[Lukewarm]

On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.

As far as I can tell, it seems like all of your scum leans have been partner reads so far. Is that coincidence or is it just your style to look more specifically for pairs then any individual player?

I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tells

I feel like you are ignoring the fact that most partners are actually going to be trying to distance from one another, no step in to defend the other one on page 1 of the thread lol

[Lukewarm]

On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.

As far as I can tell, it seems like all of your scum leans have been partner reads so far. Is that coincidence or is it just your style to look more specifically for pairs then any individual player?

I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tells

I feel like you are ignoring the fact that most partners are actually going to be trying to distance from one another, no step in to defend the other one on page 1 of the thread lol

I feel like partners more often list eachother as a weak scum lean. So they don't look like partners, but they generally have 2~3 people listed as scummier so that they can have the scum lean on them without ever pushing on them.

[Pavowski]

Speaking of reads, can I hear more from Azeru/Pawoski? I don't have anything on these 2(mainly Pawoski) since they've posted about combined 10 times

I have a really hard time forming reads when there is so much posting going on based on so little actual information. Y'all, it's early and you're acting like we're gonna break the game open here D1.

Granted I guess that's the way the game gets played here but I'm used to the NK being the first bit of info the village gets.

For now I'm just checking vibes and getting a feel for people. There is a lot of time before we have to make any decisions. But since apparently the real game has started and jokey playtime is over, I'll go ahead and UNVOTE: Lukewarm.