Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Ircher]

Also then the gladiate of Ircher vs murdercat when it's clear that notsci is the scum of choice from ircher....

Obviously, if I gladiate notscience, I will lose 98% of the time. I'd rather pick someone who I have a reasonable chance of winning against.

[Thestatusquo]

Ok but it was fake so why are we discussing it

[Thestatusquo]

It's amazing that somehow this is the dumbest Gambit of the game but here we are

[Ircher]

It wasn't a gambit. I wasn't risking anything. It was a game-shaping event.

[Ircher]

Anyway, I 100% expect to be faded here, so I'm not bothering reading any past pages until night.

[Dunnstral]

It was a game-shaping event.

What did it accomplish?

[Ircher]

There's at least one scum in the people who switched from MURDERCAT to me between the last two vcs. Guess who my money (if I were betting) is on?

[Bingle]

No if scum were fine with the wagon, MURDERCAT would already be hammered. Besides, "lack of votes" is blatantly false. I'm the second largest wagon.

Second largest wagon. At 3 votes. While murdercat is at 8 with him literally V/LA for most of those, and promising more content when he gets back. The pushback to the MC wagon is: Shea arguing that MC being absent is NAI. Yeah, there was no counter wagon to MC and that causes concern to me.

So, since you ignored me the last time I asked, why are you going out of your way to cast shade on me?

[Ircher]

Your definition of shade clearly differs from mine. The thing re:pgo soft was a suggestion/advice, not shade. 4235 is my version of events which I'm contrasting against yours. Again, it's not shade. Remember: disagreeing isn't shade.

[Dunnstral]

There's at least one scum in the people who switched from MURDERCAT to me between the last two vcs.

Why?

[Bingle]

VOTE: Bingle
IC or not, this needs to go.

Is this shade?

[Ircher]

The reasons are self-evident.

pedit: You could call that shade yes. I stand by the fact the rest aren't.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Murdercat

[Guillotina]

Bingle, with all due respect, there is a reason why you had to use your ability so early day 1.
You are scummy. We know that you are town by mech, but you throw a lot of shade and misconstrue what people actually posted a lot.

Ircher was out of the line suggesting that we get rid of you, yes. It is a call to play against our wincon, yes.

But there has been a few times where i just wished you were scum.

¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯

[Bingle]

With all due respect, I got a role PM that said "You don't have to give a shit how people see you"

I don't have to worry about my image, and that has flavored a lot of my play.

Ircher is not saying: Bingle is scummy.

Ircher is saying: Bingle is actively hurting town with his presence and thus should not be listened to, implying that Ircher's reads are infallible and all of mine are wrong.

From a town Ircher's perspective, Ircher is butthurt that I scumread him and refusing to actually engage with the things I say because of it despite still catching up.
From a scum Ircher's perspective, Ircher is mad that I'm scumreading him and wants people to not listen to me.

[Dunnstral]

There's at least one scum in the people who switched from MURDERCAT to me between the last two vcs. Guess who my money (if I were betting) is on?

None of these were after your fake gladiate

[Bell]

I got distracted.
I am not sure why Ircher wants to be the center of attention. Or what they mean by game shaping event.
Or what they mean by "i'm going to die obviously" and so on.

Also yes, I would have speed limmed you if you dueled Notty without blinking.
I am deeply unhappy you hit his HP.

[Ircher]

It's not about attention. It's about things happening

[Bell]

A bit late for that, we've been waiting around for what, 3 days for Murdercat to give us something?

[Bell]

Do you think Murderkitty is scum, if you do why do you think so?

[Ircher]

Do you think Murderkitty is scum, if you do why do you think so?

yes
reread pages 26-33.

[NDMath]

Yes but a lot of people I strongly town read are voting MC. They can't all be scum.

At the same time its interesting that ND was willing to think about playstyle things re: anya but is not willing to give MC the same benefit of the doubt.

Difference being I've played with Anya before but this is my first game with MC and so am taking other's word for his general playstyle.
What should I be thinking about in terms of MC playstyle?

Murdercat is frequently lurky and non participatory in early days of large themes because he feels overwhelmed. This is based on conversations I've had with him personally and also based on what I've observed in the large themes I've run that he has played in where it is very common for him to get Wagoned for not participating that much as town.

I agree with Bell that that doesn't appear to be why anyone has voted him this game? And like I'm obviously not voting him for inactivity.

There are numerous reasons it just doesn't work like that. If it did I would've answered before you asked.

Can you just make this clear

Like either (a) you were blocked from regenerating SP, or (b) you weren't blocked from regenerating SP, or (c) your role/some other known outside factor makes it so you can't tell whether you regenerated SP.

Was humorous letting people think it was spite, but yes it is C.

He's also against NDMath flipping too.

You'll be in a better spot after my inevitable death if you don't base every read off me being scum.

Gamestate wise, the lack of votes on Irch makes me think scum are just fine with the MC wagon, FWIW. I'm not TR-ing MC, but I definitely prefer the Ircher wagon and want MC to have a chance to give his thoughts at the very least.

VOTE: Ircher

What distinguishes mc wagon from anya wagon yesterday in this regard (am referring to after sigmund's claim)? time pressure?

[Bingle]

Your definition of shade clearly differs from mine. The thing re:pgo soft was a suggestion/advice, not shade. 4235 is my version of events which I'm contrasting against yours. Again, it's not shade. Remember: disagreeing isn't shade.

3 votes isn't really a counterwagon to 8 votes and additional people who have expressed interest. You weren't a real counterwagon until you just made yourself a real counterwagon. The "play advice" felt like empty posturing given that it came after it would have nominally been useful even if I hadn't been aware that was a weak AF crumb more intended to sow wifom than anything else, but definitely carried with it the implication of incompetence on my part.

What's your case on notty?

UNVOTE:

Not okay with either wagon going through before MC has a chance to follow up on 'content' fwiw.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: White Fire

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit