Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[House]

why is voting FMFT part of your reset?

That's where I was prior to my mental fart.

[Moongrass]

It's pretty obvious to anyone that reads your ISO, checks out your votes, and the way your reads flow.

Oh now I *really* want an explanation for this post
1) what is supposed to be obvious in my ISO? Point it out.
2) what is scummy about my votes?
3) what is scummy about my reads?
Go on, I ain't letting you go with this weak push

I'm not pushing you.

I'm voting you.

If I was pushing you, you wouldn't have to ask questions.

You'd have to answer them.

Mic drop.

[cyrus62]

i want to test something besides me no town vote on nk15

I'm guessing this means you're entertaining a theory that you're the only town vote on NK15 currently?

no that only town is on them

[Moongrass]

House do you think my wagon was a counter to NKs?

[nomnomnom]

If your only argument is that it's scummy to change reads then you've missed the boat,

No, that is not my argument.
My argument is that you've put me on

the top of your list

then immediately rescinded that read when NSG mentioned that she thought I was scum with no reason whatsoever. I still don't know why I was at the top of your list for that brief moment, and now that you've completely changed your read, it makes posts like this completely weird:

Nsg the game makes a lot more sense if jjh is scum. Fitting a team around nom doesn't work.

It just makes me think you hardly anything believe anything you post and you're just cruising by trying not to die and gain the favor of NSG here.
There is still nothing against aside from this ethereal ~behavior~ so I am still challenging you guys to make any sort of case on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

do you think it's possible to sort people based on meta?

Yes.

[cyrus62]

is no one else seeing how hard it is to get a nk hammer . think we need 7 votes if there is 3 scum here and nither of them are voting nk15 then thats why its takeing so long.

Based on this you seem to be thinking scum would hammer here if NK15 was town? My question is, why do you think they'd respond to obvious bait like what you're doing?

bait nothing . im saying scum would benefit from a quick lynch town does not.

[cyrus62]

fyi afk . doing yard work

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have explained it: 1667, 1672, 1679, 1684. In

none

of those posts do I "just bring up [my] authority on the matter".

Only post 1667 is what i'd consider an actual explanation about your JJH read, and it's very limited. And i also already responded to it and do not believe it's an very good metric for finding out if a player is town or mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

As for your read on Nomnom it remains, still very much. Unexplained.

[Moongrass]

Nom you're picking posts to suit your narrative and the posts you're leaving out explain the in between. Which for the second time is extremely scummy. As town I don't need to warp a storyline to get my reads across, only scum do that.

[House]

House do you think my wagon was a counter to NKs?

It's possible.

I'm more concerned with how his wagon got so big when my read was as flawed as it was.

[nomnomnom]

Nom you're picking posts to suit your narrative and the posts you're leaving out explain the in between. Which for the second time is extremely scummy. As town I don't need to warp a storyline to get my reads across, only scum do that.

I'm very much aware of your reason for townreading me back then, but it still doesn't explain why that warranted me to be on top of your list, and why you've suddenly changed your read on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: FMFT

Not mafia
Nom
House
Gamma
Cyrus
Feys
Titus
NK15
FMFT
Jjh
Mastina

Firstly, how'd nom jump to the top this time? This is the second time one of your prior suspects has moved to the very top. I also noticed this post:

Cyrus what's the best point you have on JJH being scum?

around the time of your previous readlist. I don't feel like this makes sense with the fact you had jjh and cyrus as confident townreads at that time? The logical explanations for this post existing are questioning cyrus or considering voting jjh, neither of which matches with the stated reads at that time.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.11

Not Known 15 (4):

mastina, DrippingGoofball, Free Money Free Tea, cyrus62,

Moongrass (3):

Gamma Emerald, Not Known 15, nomnomnom,

jjh927 (2):

Mia and Maya Fey, Titus,

nomnomnom (2):

House, Moongrass,

Free Money Free Tea (0):

House (0):

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

jjh927, Not_Mafia,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd consider Nomnom!scum, but it's hard when all i feel like i'm seeing is an dogpile, and Moon yet again switching his reads like an sleazy politician always turning wherever the conditions are favourable.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's also not the only post where he points to you townreading him as a reason he's town.

If I had rolled scum here I'd be playing to make sure nsg and mastina townread me.

can you explain the second line here?

[House]

Mic drop.

One thing's for sure... we're not red-aligned.



No scum team would ever be

this

blatant.

[Moongrass]

I'd consider Nomnom!scum, but it's hard when all i feel like i'm seeing is an dogpile, and Moon yet again switching his reads like an sleazy politician always turning wherever the conditions are favourable.

A dogpile of two votes? I think my game has been anything but going with what's favorable. If that were true I would've stayed on NK instead of prodding around elsewhere and vanity voting house. I also could have just gone straight for jjh without much trouble but decided to discuss instead like a sleazy politician.

[House]

I'd consider Nomnom!scum, but it's hard when all i feel like i'm seeing is an dogpile, and Moon yet again switching his reads like an sleazy politician always turning wherever the conditions are favourable.

A dogpile of two votes? I think my game has been anything but going with what's favorable. If that were true I would've stayed on NK instead of prodding around elsewhere and vanity voting house. I also could have just gone straight for jjh without much trouble but decided to discuss instead like a sleazy politician.

True.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think there's clearly a split in the game with jjh mastina on one side and Fey nm on the other. If both groups are town then the game gets tricky.

this is very interesting, talk about this more

[House]

Moon's lack of self-awareness (until Norwe poked at it) was something I actually liked, personally.

[Gamma Emerald]

like, if you're right about that, it may change both how I view you and whatever slots are attached to that gamestate read

[Gamma Emerald]

You've stated JJH is completely or incredibly likely to be town, and i state my opposition to that.
And here we are.

I've noticed most of your communication with nsg seems to be regarding disagreements. I'd like to see y'all maybe hash out which reads you can see eye-to-eye on.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nsg that's where you ignore the other person. We all know you're great, can you please redirect onto if my wagon was a counter and what nom scum means for NK?

idk if I like how this reads. It kinda feels like moon wants to lead the discussion into topics that suit them, which raises the question, why is the current discussion harmful?
In my opinion I think the end goal of this may be to keep nsg and norwee from actually reconciling their reads, which I view as rather pro-scum, as if the town stumps are not unified it breaks up potential pressure on scum.