Newbie 2067 - Pizza! - End!

[HockeyFan]

this game has new pages

cyrus isn't the play today

i still like hockey for town, i like the way he is engaging the game, it just feels like it's coming from town. same with zyla. luke's push on strangematter seems legit.

i'm less convinced about haschel atm. i want to hear more from azeru. i don't quite like 268 i get that it's early and not based on much but it does seem a little forced. strangematter is null for me.

i think that's where i'm at

Save the Dragons has only said positive things about me, starting with an early TR in post 51, might be a pocket attempt?

I like this proactiveness from Luke here. But eh I wouldnt go as far as to call it a "pocket" as of rn

[Save The Dragons]

was not a strong read but something to go off of for the early game

[Lukewarm]

I will not be voting Cyrus today, for reasons.

Spoiler:

but why.... you had 1 vote on you

[Save The Dragons]

off topic but i go by Fenrir as well so if STD is too gross and Save the Dragons is too long you can call me Fen or Fenrir

[Lukewarm]

Zyla null
Azeru null

There you go, pick me apart!

Do you think that zyla feels the same or different from last game?

[Lukewarm]

Zyla - inclined to read as town but I need to try to separate out the meta.

Oh, kept reading up, and I see that you are trying to read her without meta.

[Zyla]

i don't like how lukewarm accused me of pocketing him

there are you happy now

I.. feel like that's actually worse

[Save The Dragons]

it was a joke

[Pavowski]

Zyla - inclined to read as town but I need to try to separate out the meta.

Oh, kept reading up, and I see that you are trying to read her without meta.

I would be leary of reading her meta anyway, as iirc last game was her first on site, so she'll be making adjustments regardless.

Luke you buying Cyrus's toaster leavings then?

[StrangeMatter]

What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.

I dont like this question much tbh. I think hes just baiting answers from certain town members SO him(less likely) or his maf partner can start not doing these things

The goal, was to get people’s experience as Mafia to get an understanding what Mafia would do in situations that happened like the mess with Cyrus. I worded it really horribly by not adding specifics, but it was to gauge who was and wasn’t doing that action.

If cyrus is scum, then I have no idea what the scum team would do right now.

If cyrus in town, then the scum team would probably try to push him out, thinking he would be an easy Day 1 miselim at this point - which I realize now a great look for me, seeing as how I voted cyrus

I bet he’s probably the latter right now. Taking a possible 1v7 with PRs still in play is a terrible place. I really can’t see a benefit that is better or fine in this scenario. I just don’t see an experienced player pulling this.

[HockeyFan]

I think Im at a point in the game where I want to slightly re-eveulate my reads so here there are

Luke- He has played wayy townier imo over the past few posst and therefore he is weak town for me right now
Pav- has moved from weak town to null/weak scum for me as of now. They do indeed have reads but they're confident not in them at all and from my expericnes, usually town is more confident in their reads.
Cyrus- As many others have said, he is a big wild card rn, but ngl, hes leaning town to me
Azeru- Probs my biggest town read, I have really liked the tone of their reads
Zyla- I have re-evulated Zyla and after reading through their posts Scum casing me, they have had some pretty solid reasond AND have started scumcasing other ppl So I like that(probs null rn tbh)
Strange- Honestly my biggest question mark rn. My read on had changed quite alot but they are still leaning scum to me
STD- Another person who I think is my biggest scum lean rn- This read I cant explain much other than gut feeling
Cedricson- Havent posted in ~24 hours so dont have a read on them rn

TLDR:

From mafia to town

STD -> Strange == Pav -> Cyrus -> Zyra -> Luke -> Azeru

(As said above Do not have a read on cedricsson)

[Lukewarm]

In regards to cyrus, I am not sure if cyrus is town, but I am willing to let them live through Day 1

[Pavowski]

it was a joke

Jokes are not allowed, this game got real 30 picoseconds after the mod opened the thread

[Lukewarm]

I am going to dive back into isos, I think. See you on the other side

[Haschel Cedricson]

Need to read in depth but everybody needs to stop discussing Cyrus; we aren’t voting Cyrus.

[Save The Dragons]

i get scumread a lot as town

i know that's self-meta and self-meta is a big no no but i can provide examples

so i get the gutread i would just ask yourself how much of it is playstyle and how much of it is because i'm actually scummy

[StrangeMatter]

Can we talk about Pavowski, their posts from what I have seen aren’t doing really anything.

[StrangeMatter]

Nevermind, I just forgot they existed. Most of their posts have done more than I have.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-6

"some scholars think pizza was first made more than 2000 years ago when Roman soldiers added cheese and olive oil to matzah"
-- Abba Eban

HockeyFan

(3): StrangeMatter, Zyla, cyrus62

cyrus62

(2): Pavowski, Azeru

Lukewarm

(1): HockeyFan

StrangeMatter

(1): Lukewarm

Haschel Cedricson

(1): Save The Dragons

Not Voting

(1): Haschel Cedricson

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 20, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-19 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Lukewarm]

Zyla

Town Read

32/42 clears up a misunderstanding, when leaving the misunderstanding out there would make a townie (me) look worse, and did not really impact reads on her, so anti-scum equity

70 aggressive on pushing a scum read, when last game she was not very aggressive at all Day 1 (she was scum that game)

In general, see her prodding people, HockeyFan, Strangematter (101), STD(284, 306), cyrus (236, 251). It just feels like she is genuinely trying to sort people.

I think I would peg her as a town lean based solely on this game, but moving it up to a town read including the meta

STD

Null?

Still a little worried about the early TR on me.

I do like his progression on Haschel in 51->52 -> 56 though. Was leaning town, saw haschel drop a vote without saying anything, called it out, but then went back and looked to find why haschel would have done it, and realized that haschel had asked Strange a question, and not gotten an answer. I think that scum would be less likely to have followed through and double checked why haschel did it. Like you just call empty voting scummy, and move on.

But in the same post, I don't like the "give a newbie a little slack" line. The newbie in question had 1 vote on them, is that really too aggressive? lol


Stopping to eat for now

[HockeyFan]

Oh yeah the vote counter reminded me

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Save The Dragons

[StrangeMatter]

I am going to read ISOs right now, this conversation doesn’t feel like it’s going anywhere.

[StrangeMatter]

@Azeri can you please explain why you’re voting for Cyrus right now? You’ve been prodding and questioning Cyrus for a while now, and you choose to stay when there’s logical move from several accounts that says not to vote them?

[Pavowski]

UNVOTE: cyrus

[Lukewarm]

I am probably going to be absent from the thread for the next 24ish hours. Having an allergic reaction to my cat's new flea medicine, completely with severe migraine and nausea.

Will not be reading any threads for the near future.