Newbie 2064 - (GG)

JamesTheNames · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:45 pm

My thing basically says. Your action did not succeed, no result.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:45 pm

I am so sorry

unwnd · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:46 pm

This was last night right?

JamesTheNames · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:47 pm

This is still town favoured though. I will be dead N3.
Yes N2 I investigated Zyla

unwnd · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:48 pm

I would've preferred an easier game but generally speaking Navigator was my strongest TR and nothing about Noraa's game so far makes me doubt that.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:49 pm

I'm still leaning on a Zyla as Orctin's scum partner if my thing didn't count as clearing her. This is embarrassing.

Noraa · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:50 pm

In post 950, JamesTheNames wrote:My thing basically says. Your action did not succeed, no result.

:/
wow ok then we're off to a great start
I get forced to claim by our town pr who ... didn't even get a result last night and its not even lylo
why did I even claim wtf.

Noraa · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:51 pm

And now its also outted that our second pr is a JKer. WONDERFUL.
This is just going amazing.

Noraa · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:52 pm

funny story. One time I thought I was cop but I really wasn't and I went around clearing people who surprisingly were actually town. it was the funniest thing ever.

Noraa · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:53 pm

I previously got something mixed up btw,
I thought Super replaced the monkey for some reason. But since she replaced Dom, im locktowning that asap. I had reservations about the monkey's alignment
So last scum is Zyla or Unwnd. This game is solved.

Noraa · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:54 pm

I wasn't a fan of ninja or the monkey
my only issue is that I always SR the monkey sooo :/

Noraa · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:57 pm

James, I think claiming today wasn't the brightest idea however its good to know you are the tracker and the main reason is because I would've tunneled you today having not known that.
Your predecessor behaved unlike themselves normally. Generally Salsa is a rather indecisive person and when I saw them vote micc after he voted orctin, I was pretty darn set on tunneling you from that point on.

Either way, town still should have this game since scum can't kill both prs and both are pretty damn powerful.

Noraa · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:59 pm

The other good thing is that we now know that scum have a role blocker.
If our JK targeted someone other than Zyla last night, then we know that scum role blocked Zyla and zyla is conftown.
So if that's what happened last night, mass claim should happen probably?
If that's not what happened and our JK JK'ed Zyla,
wait. ig another possibility is that James was blocked. Shit I didn't think about that.

Noraa · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:00 pm

DONT LISTEN TO THAT. NO MORE CLAIMS. NO MORE.
Uhm yeah idk. Imma chill and wait for super to come online.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:02 pm

What happens if a roleblocker and a jailkeeper target eachother, who wins?

Noraa · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:05 pm

Ok so if the town JKer blocked Zyla last night, claim cuz then we have Zyla conftown(since zyla can't move if she's JKed unless she's scum role blocker and role blocked the JKer in which case she deserves to win this game so like who cares and the probability is kinda low), James conftown, other pr conftown. That leaves me and scum and we'll win.
If the town JKer blocked anyone else, don't claim.
I think that logic checks out but don't claim before everyone has discussed this a bit please. Ok I'll shut up now lol my brain's frying up.

Noraa · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:05 pm

In post 964, JamesTheNames wrote:What happens if a roleblocker and a jailkeeper target eachother, who wins?

good question I have no idea and it probably doesn't matter because it probably won't happen.

Zyla · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:06 pm

In post 962, Noraa wrote:The other good thing is that we now know that scum have a role blocker.
If our JK targeted someone other than Zyla last night, then we know that scum role blocked Zyla and zyla is conftown.
So if that's what happened last night, mass claim should happen probably?
If that's not what happened and our JK JK'ed Zyla,
wait. ig another possibility is that James was blocked. Shit I didn't think about that.

No, if James got "No result", that means it was he who got Jailed, if I were jailed, he'd've gotten that I didn't go anywhere. It had to have been that one of the blockers targeted

james

.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, jailing prevents kills as well as being killed, so if we're lucky, the mafia blocked james and the jailer blocked someone else, as that other person would be confirmed town

PEdit: NewD3 states that Mafia blocks Jailkeeper from acting, and Mafia kills as normal

Cabd · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:09 pm

As it was asked, the info on role precedence is in the opening set of posts:

In post 2, Cabd wrote:All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects. Mafia Roleblocker action takes precedence over a Town Jailkeeper action should that apply.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:10 pm

What happened was either I was roleblocked or Jailed. What Noraa is suggesting, is that if the Jailkeeper targetted you, it means the roleblocker had to have targetted me, meaning if they targetted you they would out themselves, as we would then know the roleblocker had to have targetted me.

JamesTheNames · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:11 pm

In post 967, Zyla wrote:
In post 962, Noraa wrote:The other good thing is that we now know that scum have a role blocker.
If our JK targeted someone other than Zyla last night, then we know that scum role blocked Zyla and zyla is conftown.
So if that's what happened last night, mass claim should happen probably?
If that's not what happened and our JK JK'ed Zyla,
wait. ig another possibility is that James was blocked. Shit I didn't think about that.
No, if James got "No result", that means it was he who got Jailed, if I were jailed, he'd've gotten that I didn't go anywhere. It had to have been that one of the blockers targeted
james
.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, jailing prevents kills as well as being killed, so if we're lucky, the mafia blocked james and the jailer blocked someone else, as that other person would be confirmed town

PEdit: NewD3 states that Mafia blocks Jailkeeper from acting, and Mafia kills as normal

This means we win as long as the jailkeeper didn't target me.

Zyla · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:18 pm

Oh, yeah, I guess that would be true. You're confirmed, the jailkeeper would be confirmed, and whoever they targeted would be confirmed since they couldn't've killed if they were jailed, leaving only two options.

Super · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:41 pm

JamesTheNames · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:43 pm

In post 972, Super wrote:hi

Hello.

Super · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:45 pm

I'm busy kinda-ish at the moment and have skimmed the thread but Nora to me is screaming townish and James' claim to me kinda clears him I think so there is that

I will be back in a few hours to actually process the posts and reread again but atm my thoughts are Zyla/Unwnd one is scum, idk which