Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Dwlee99]

2. On N0, everyone will start with 2 SP. SP is required in order to certain abilities. You need enough SP to do so. If you have enough SP, you may be allowed to use more than one ability. Everyone will gain 1 SP at the end of the night stratum (this does not count towards N0).

This seems to imply that it's not possible for a role to not have SP.

Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.

[Something_Smart]

@people who know flavor (i.e. morph): is SP a mechanic in the game? Is Farmer a class that does not use it?

[Something_Smart]

Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.

Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.

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Every class uses sp for abilities both abilities on the map and abilities in combat (you can interact with or affect the environment with some abilities)

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However, I believe there are some innate abilities that don't require SP at all.

[Dwlee99]

Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.

Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.

Was I around for this?

[Titus]

Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.

Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.

Was I around for this?

No.

There was a fake guilty on me. I crumbed my actions. I asked Chara and NDMath to confirm. NDMath refused. NDMath got run up for being scummy. They claimed No SP then they claimed watcher.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: NDMath
Okay that I don't believe and with the lack of content I think simplest explanation is scum unless someone else can corroborate no SP. Mod post literally confirms everyone starts with SP.

[Something_Smart]

There was a fake guilty on me. I crumbed my actions. I asked Chara and NDMath to confirm. NDMath refused. NDMath got run up for being scummy. They claimed No SP then they claimed watcher.

More than this-- he dodged the question until I spelled it out in very clear terms, at which point he claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny Titus, but even then he didn't say why. That wasn't clarified until he claimed.

[Something_Smart]

However, I believe there are some innate abilities that don't require SP at all.

There are. STD and Toogeloo each had one.

[Something_Smart]

By the way, I asked if unwnd if it was possible for a role to not have SP. They refused to answer, which is equivalent to saying that it's possible.

[Titus]

If I am right on NDMath (which I likely am) then SS becomes near locktown.

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If I am right on NDMath (which I likely am) then SS becomes near locktown.

Makes sense. We're not killing Mdmath though.

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Gunna have to wait your turn Titus.

[Something_Smart]

Because watcher?

If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.

Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.

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Because watcher?

If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.

Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.

Because watcher and because you created reasonable doubt but not a slam dunk.

[Dunnstral]

Every class uses sp for abilities both abilities on the map and abilities in combat (you can interact with or affect the environment with some abilities)

Farmer is not a combat class

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Or maybe I’m scum with ndmath huehuehue

[Titus]

Because watcher?

If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.

Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.

Because watcher and because you created reasonable doubt but not a slam dunk.

Combine that with Anya's and NDMath's play though.

[Titus]

Or maybe I’m scum with ndmath huehuehue

Doubt it. Scum wouldn't take this vocal of a stance and that's not your usual scum MO (but you can deviate like Team Mafia).

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Every class uses sp for abilities both abilities on the map and abilities in combat (you can interact with or affect the environment with some abilities)

Farmer is not a combat class

Yes, but there was a class called farm in EO that i vaguely remember giving exp bonuses and being able to do something to the land which, from a flavor perspective (even though unwnd said not) would fit a watcher role.

I also asked if unwnd gave the scum team fake claims which he neither confirmed nor denied but he did say he wouldn’t generate fake claims on request. Which isn’t very helpful tbh.

[Titus]

NDMath also had the word ninja but didn't actually bypass trackers/watchers except for their hp loss and that would be 1-2 shot at best. It seems odd to have a full, ungated watcher against that.

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I’m very allergic to balance arguments with watchers.
There are clear ways to balance a watcher roll in this set up.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think ndmath is lying about having no sp

Specific classes trump general rules

[Something_Smart]

I’m very allergic to balance arguments with watchers.
There are clear ways to balance a watcher roll in this set up.

Yes, but it invalidates the argument that NDMath should be kept alive because his role is powerful, if that's what you were getting at.