Open 816: C9++ || Game Over

[Tigerente]

With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven

ok but we agree he isn't groupscum tho, right?

[Tigerente]

I'm trying to figure out why kerset was voteparked on A50 for so long and I can't really figure it out, I think it might point towards a weaker 3rd partner

i'm more confused why a50 was parked on kerset tbh

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

Fair enough

[Tigerente]

honestly i still don't get why the kerset wagon took off at all ....
maybe cakez realy is scum pr (gf) and a goon going down was better than a pr going down

~ skitteR

[Umlaut]

VOTE: SirCakez

I think the game progresses best if we resolve this

Sorry I'm being so lazy, it's just because... I'm lazy

[Umlaut]

I don't think the Kerset yeet was anywhere near foregone-conclusion enough to warrant a double bus. Most likely the remaining maf was off the wagon. Ruling out players who are dead or conftown, that means maf in {Pooky, Cakez}. I'm quite happy to flip them both.

Also gambler's fallacy says it's way past time for Cakez to be scum in a game with me.

[Datisi]

maybe it was a double bus exactly because the case on kerset was relatively weak and it wouldn't have gone through otherwise :thonk:

in all seriousness, shouldn't umlaut call out his target for tonight in advance, in case we flip scum today?

[Umlaut]

Yeah, probably a good idea. I'm happy to listen to the wisdom of the crowd on that one but as of now I'm just going to block whichever of {Cakez, Pooky} we don't flip (Cakez if we don't flip either one)

[Umlaut]

A mod error was discovered in the setup. One role PM was incorrect. That player will not receive a corrected role PM and the game will continue with this public disclosure.

Trying to decide whether Menalque would use this wording if the role PM that was "incorrect" was a VT role PM that should have been an additional PR

[Umlaut]

Open 680, also a C9++ game, was abandoned because the mod mistakenly interpreted a single B as generating a single 1-Shot Roleblocker and gave me that role instead of the unlimited Roleblocker role I should have gotten. (That's the way all the letters C, D, and M work, so he probably just assumed B worked the same way without looking carefully.)

Menalque could have made an analogous error and thought BB was a single unlimited Roleblocker as opposed to a Roleblocker + 1-Shot Roleblocker.

[PenguinPower]

Mmm - that would usually be done in consultation and is a pretty angleshooty thing to present.

[Umlaut]

That's the way all the letters C, D, and M work

C, D, and V, rather. M of course works differently

[Umlaut]

that would usually be done in consultation

I don't know what this means?

[PenguinPower]

honestly i still don't get why the kerset wagon took off at all ....
maybe cakez realy is scum pr (gf) and a goon going down was better than a pr going down

~ skitteR

Are you kidding me? Literally....

[PenguinPower]

that would usually be done in consultation

I don't know what this means?

Mod errors are usually reviewed with someone - either a co-mod/reviewer/listmod - not done in isolation.

[Umlaut]

Oh, you mean

what to say

would have been done in consultation (so whether

Menalque specifically

would word it in that way is not a meaningful indicator).

I didn't really mean to try and read his mind specifically, I was just wondering whether the wording could allow for the case where we have one more or fewer VT than expected.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - I just don’t think that’s a worthwhile path to go down.

[SirCakez]

I mean you don't know who's mafia and who isn't

This
Dwlee's defense is ridiculous

[SirCakez]

With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven

ok but we agree he isn't groupscum tho, right?

Yeah i don't think scum want Kerset dead there when I was on the table as an elim

[SirCakez]

Trying to pick for the mod error is a bad idea

[Dwlee99]

I mean you don't know who's mafia and who isn't

This
Dwlee's defense is ridiculous

You're scum so I don't care what you think.

[SirCakez]

Infinity is not scum and says the same thing lol what a bad retort

[Dwlee99]

Like here's the deal: I caught scum, I hard pushed it, I was right, I feel like I'm pretty much obvtowning here and that you think I'm scummy is scum-indicative itself fmpov.

Infinity is not scum and says the same thing lol what a bad retort

Infinity isn't going around being dumb though.

[Dwlee99]

I'm burden of proficiency-ing you right now, I don't think town!cakez scumreads me here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think vig and rb should both claim their targets beforehand right?