Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Chara]

I think it was an unplanned bus in response to sigmund claim and wagon stalling, but the timing is a little jumbled for me.
To be perfectly clear, I am trying to explain how scum LLD ended up leading a wagon on scum Anya, because I have a scum read on LLD, it's not the other way around

so wait, where is your scum LLD read from if not from thinking she was bussing?

[Chara]

i guess i don't find it that convincing because i don't see a reason scum NDMath would need to target you specifically to respond to, as opposed to shea's post just up above, rather than it being kind of arbitrary who he responded to.

If town and targeting someone I feel like he'd try to talk it out with one of his town reads. That math picked me after saying how uneasy he is with my slot presents an incongruency in what I think a town thought process should be. His interactions with me certainly seem like he is talking to someone he thinks is town despite, again, saying he found me scummy.

okay, i understand your perspective on this.

i don't get the same feeling that he's treating you as town from his interactions with you, they seem kind of neutral, but i can't confidently say you're wrong either. at the very least your read seems like a real one so i'm still confident your slot is town.

[MURDERCAT]

so wait, where is your scum LLD read from if not from thinking she was bussing?

My LLD read developed well before that and comes from the fact that LLD hasn't once given me the benefit of the doubt except for one moment with morph that I read as very fake. LLD has continued to push me in a way that I find very opportunistic, and her read on me only started when I revealed that I was scum reading LLD. In other words, if I'm the only townie that thinks that scum LLD is scum I am a good target to push and she has continued to push me with no deeper thought behind whether she believes she is correct.

[Flea The Magician]

Whats the votes on what wagon at the moment? I'm going to drop and go as other than my own game I won't be around until late wednesday

[Flea The Magician]

Whats the votes on what wagon at the moment? I'm going to drop and go as other than my own game I won't be around until late wednesday

[Ircher]

about tied on MURDER/NDMath. I think MURDERCAT may have one more vote.

[Dwlee99]

If you plop down a vote on NDMath I promise I'll consolidate onto a different wagon if we need to.

[MURDERCAT]

Votecount 2.8

Adventurers

:

MURDERCAT [8]: NDMath, WhemeStar, Ircher, Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, Chara, Farkran, Sigmund
NDMath [7]: Titus, MURDERCAT, Bingle, Dwlee99, Something_Smart, Thestatusquo, Dunnstral
Something_Smart [2]: morph the cat, Artemiana
Dunnstral [1]: White Fire
notscience [1]: notscience

Not voting [1]: Flea the Magician

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate. Stratum 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-14 22:25:25).

[Titus]

Mod Event

Votecount 2.8

Adventurers

:

MURDERCAT [8]: NDMath, WhemeStar, Ircher, Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, Chara, Farkran, Sigmund
NDMath [7]: Titus, MURDERCAT, Bingle, Dwlee99, Something_Smart, Thestatusquo, Dunnstral
Something_Smart [2]: morph the cat, Artemiana
Dunnstral [1]: White Fire
notscience [1]: notscience

Not voting [1]: Flea the Magician

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate. Stratum 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-14 22:25:25).

[Chara]

pedit this is @ murdercat: how would you say your play is different from the notsci scumgame?

i think it would be hard for me to vote NDMath here, unless i was sure you were town, he is a watcher claim i don't really scumread, and i don't think there's time for another wagon, so full disclosure on that, but if you are town i'd like to understand your reads for going forward, and that is because of your reputation.

i also thought LLD's case against anya was too confident for what was there at the time... obviously, and it made it hard to get into day 2 considering i was proven wrong and my reaction was to decide to sheep LLD. so i'm not totally unwilling to believe it was because it was a bus, but to even start thinking about that would depend on your flip anyway.

for me i don't like how criticisms of your play seem to just be met with self-meta, it makes me think you're aware of your own town patterns and are just doing your best to replicate them.

[Titus]

The people voting vanity wagons need to stop and make a choice to progress the game, even if it's not my choice.

[Chara]

yeah, SS isn't going to be a wagon and notsci's vote should be somewhere.

[Chara]

White Fire too but i don't know when they last posted.

[Titus]

Three days ago. They need a prod.

[notscience]

My vote is OMGUS

[MURDERCAT]

pedit this is @ murdercat: how would you say your play is different from the notsci scumgame?

I had trouble producing reads that game as I tried to stick to consensus and LHF, but then got called out for it. I tried to let the heat die down, but it didn't (you'll see I do this as town and scum, though when I do it as town it is often genuine frustration). I felt uncomfortable posting as I really wanted to be scum with Infinity and Gamma and didn't want to let them down so quickly, plus I was busy and couldn't high effort. Probably my worst scum game on site. There are plenty of scum games where I high effort and plenty of town games where I low effort, it varies depending on what I have going on.

[MURDERCAT]

Implicit in that is that in this game my reads are developed and defined even if people don't like them and they go against popular opinion, which I think is very likely to be controlled by scum.

[Titus]

My vote is OMGUS

Notty, please. It's too close to deadline for trolling.

[notscience]

Morph and Mara please vote for MCat. If he flips green I will shoot SS for you tonight.

[MURDERCAT]

Oh I wanted to add this to my iso in case I flip:

I don't think Chara and math are likely to be scum together

[Titus]

Morph and Mara please vote for MCat. If he flips green I will shoot SS for you tonight.

If MCat is your choice, please vote MCat.

[Titus]

I realize I am townreading all of the anya wagon and that's unlikely to be correct.

[Chara]

i don't know if i prefer this morning where i honestly didn't care to now where i feel paralyzed by indecision.

[Chara]

Oh I wanted to add this to my iso in case I flip:

I don't think Chara and math are likely to be scum together

what makes you say that?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: NDMath then. I think MCat is town here and hoping they're going to keep the effort level up.