Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Mia and Maya Fey]

If I'm wrong it would be wise to look at the hydra again.

VOTE: Moongrass

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.08

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

House,

Moongrass (1):

Not Known 15,

cyrus62 (1):

Gamma Emerald,

mastina (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A bus has to make sense here. I quoted the largest wagon to counter NK. If you're town and cyrus is town, that leaves not mafia as the only possible scum slot trying to save NK15.

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

If the Mia hydra flips town somehow we might have to look at Free Money Free Tea.

Unless we get an actual explanation for their reads

at that time that makes sense

FMFT not scum unless hydra is scum, which based on VCA I don't think they are.

UNVOTE:

[House]

If I'm wrong it would be wise to look at the hydra again.

VOTE: Moongrass

Like, that's not terrible, but...

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

This is better.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

If the Mia hydra flips town somehow we might have to look at Free Money Free Tea.

Unless we get an actual explanation for their reads

at that time that makes sense

FMFT not scum unless hydra is scum, which based on VCA I don't think they are.

NK15, hydra, FMFT?

Thoughts?

VOTE: Moongrass

[House]

If the Mia hydra flips town somehow we might have to look at Free Money Free Tea.

Unless we get an actual explanation for their reads

at that time that makes sense

FMFT not scum unless hydra is scum, which based on VCA I don't think they are.

NK15, hydra, FMFT?

Thoughts?

VOTE: Moongrass

That's not inconsistent. Read those 2 posts again.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I don't believe House makes up a guilty here.

VOTE: Cyrus

[Mia and Maya Fey]

UNVOTE: cyrus

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

Please finish catching up. House faked it.

[Moongrass]

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

What do you think is more likely a full bus? Or one on one off?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I knew there was no way I got my read that wrong on Cyrus.

VOTE: Moongrass

???

[Titus]

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

What do you think is more likely a full bus? Or one on one off?

I'm thinking one on at 5 and one off at that point. Maybe both were on at the end.

The way things folded up at the end is odd.

I'm thinking not mafia jjh and fmft as my suspects right now.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I think town wins from here after that D1.

No.

NK was a commuter enabler. If the commuter is an real town role it would be in scum's interest to buss NK15 and limit the town's power.

I could see that. I just don’t understand why his buddies wouldn’t have just told him to claim commuter enabler, if that is true. If there is actually a town commuter, it seems counter-intuitive.

The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want NK checked either. Otherwise, enabler works better as a fakeclaim.

Unseasoned scum?

But he lives one more day and they could have presumably gotten a miselim, so I don’t get it.

Possibly.

[Moongrass]

I guess what would be fully illuminating is who got onto the NK15 wagon when it looked inevitable? I'm not talking about people that voted there earlier and got on later, I mean who's reads changed later?

Like I think FMFT spent so much of the day vote shadowing NK and then he gets on towards end of day saying "going out on a limb" but no real reason.

[Moongrass]

I'm thinking not mafia jjh and fmft as my suspects right now.

Not mafia is possible. Jjh makes sense if they had discussed bussing NK early on to shut down commuter, but that's a long shot and an option I'd leave until last.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Vote Count 1.08

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

House,

Moongrass (1):

Not Known 15,

cyrus62 (1):

Gamma Emerald,

mastina (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A bus has to make sense here. I quoted the largest wagon to counter NK. If you're town and cyrus is town, that leaves not mafia as the only possible scum slot trying to save NK15.

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, Moongrass,

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter Enabler

You are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.

Do you think it was a hard or reluctant bus?

[Moongrass]

I'm too lazy to look at why the hydra changed their mind on jjh and switched to NK right now. But that's something to check out at some point.

[Not_Mafia]

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

What do you think is more likely a full bus? Or one on one off?

I'm thinking one on at 5 and one off at that point. Maybe both were on at the end.

The way things folded up at the end is odd.

I'm thinking not mafia jjh and fmft as my suspects right now.

I'm thinking not mafia jjh and fmft as my suspects right now.

Not mafia is possible. Jjh makes sense if they had discussed bussing NK early on to shut down commuter, but that's a long shot and an option I'd leave until last.

I'm an unCC'd PR, I'm conftown

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Maybe not FMFT actually

Might be a scum in my townreads

But Titus is very likely to be scum here. I think her stance on NK15 has been that she doesn't want to bus but she will if it reaches that point

could we focus on nk15 as a flip there would add fire to who i think is scum..

UNVOTE:

...

Interesting.

i dont want a hammer till we know for sure. nm wants it bad that pings me

Nm would hammer his mother.

Also, I don't think we should do this. Hammering a commuter claim is garbage. We can just tell NK15 to not commute so we can investigate him. If he complies, we have an unkillable town slot. If he claims compulsive or refuses, then yeet his ass.

Titus is town.

[House]

Maybe not FMFT actually

Might be a scum in my townreads

But Titus is very likely to be scum here. I think her stance on NK15 has been that she doesn't want to bus but she will if it reaches that point

could we focus on nk15 as a flip there would add fire to who i think is scum..

UNVOTE:

...

Interesting.

i dont want a hammer till we know for sure. nm wants it bad that pings me

Nm would hammer his mother.

Also, I don't think we should do this. Hammering a commuter claim is garbage. We can just tell NK15 to not commute so we can investigate him. If he complies, we have an unkillable town slot. If he claims compulsive or refuses, then yeet his ass.

Titus is town.

Thing is, how does Titus even know we have an investigative role at all, considering she's not a stump?

[mastina]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

Free Money Free Tea, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

For the record.

Given the complete lack of counterwagon at end of day.

Chances are astronomically high there was a scum busser.

And the names I left are my top candidates:

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

Especially since of the names off the D1 wagon. Who would be scum? I don't think it's jjh or Titus; I don't think it's House; even cyrus, I can see as town. So if scum didn't bus, where are they?

In other words, scum bussed, and the three names I've left, FMFT, nomnom, and Not_Mafia, top my charts for being the prime bussers candidates.

[Not_Mafia]

Not_Mafia

I'm conftown

[mastina]

nomnomnom would not answer his door after Night 1.

Er.

*ahem*

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

Free Money Free Tea, Not_Mafia

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

For the record.

Given the complete lack of counterwagon at end of day.

Chances are astronomically high there was a scum busser.

And the names I left are my top candidates:

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

Especially since of the names off the D1 wagon. Who would be scum? I don't think it's jjh or Titus; I don't think it's House; even cyrus, I can see as town. So if scum didn't bus, where are they?

In other words, scum bussed, and the three names I've left, FMFT, and Not_Mafia, top my charts for being the prime bussers candidates.

[House]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

Free Money Free Tea, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

For the record.

Given the complete lack of counterwagon at end of day.

Chances are astronomically high there was a scum busser.

And the names I left are my top candidates:

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

Especially since of the names off the D1 wagon. Who would be scum? I don't think it's jjh or Titus; I don't think it's House; even cyrus, I can see as town. So if scum didn't bus, where are they?

In other words, scum bussed, and the three names I've left, FMFT, nomnom, and Not_Mafia, top my charts for being the prime bussers candidates.

I'm really interested in hearing how you think nom is scum.

[House]

Lol