Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Not_Mafia]

At present I will be targetting the Feys tonight

I don't believe your shenanigans.

If you were a role that could get useful results, you wouldn't be targeting obvtown.

The intricacies of my role and my big brain strategy will become apparent later

[mastina]

Honestly, I don't see you living too MyLo anyway.

Honestly I don't see us getting to mylo anyway.

[mastina]

Killing nom is something I would have done as scum. Hammering NK is not. I would have gone all in on bussing NK from the start and I sure as hell would not have pushed the players I have generating as much content as there is because a low info, low profile day would've enabled me to coast to end game after bussing.

For the record this is one of the reasons I am clearing jjh.

jjh was one of the pushers on NK15, early, often, pretty hard.

He hopped OFF at the end of the day.

Scum that bus tend to commit to the bus; it's usually only town who hop off of a wagon on scum in the manner jjh did.

[House]

Honestly, I don't see you living too MyLo anyway.

Honestly I don't see us getting to mylo anyway.

As long as people keep steering away from the easy elimination, you're probably right.

[Moongrass]

That's true, I forgot that jjh also unvoted.

[Moongrass]

Mastina how strong is your townread of the hydra? I need someone to sanity check me there.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.08

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

House,

Moongrass (1):

Not Known 15,

cyrus62 (1):

Gamma Emerald,

mastina (1):

Free Money Free Tea,

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A bus has to make sense here. I quoted the largest wagon to counter NK. If you're town and cyrus is town, that leaves not mafia as the only possible scum slot trying to save NK15.

Given the hard consistent push and lack of a hard counter, I am going with bus here.

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, Moongrass,

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter Enabler

You are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.

Do you think it was a hard or reluctant bus?

I'd need to know the alignment of jjh to answer that.

[Titus]

Maybe not FMFT actually

Might be a scum in my townreads

But Titus is very likely to be scum here. I think her stance on NK15 has been that she doesn't want to bus but she will if it reaches that point

could we focus on nk15 as a flip there would add fire to who i think is scum..

UNVOTE:

...

Interesting.

i dont want a hammer till we know for sure. nm wants it bad that pings me

Nm would hammer his mother.

Also, I don't think we should do this. Hammering a commuter claim is garbage. We can just tell NK15 to not commute so we can investigate him. If he complies, we have an unkillable town slot. If he claims compulsive or refuses, then yeet his ass.

Titus is town.

Thing is, how does Titus even know we have an investigative role at all, considering she's not a stump?

I believed your tracker claim? Afterwards I reset that.

[DrippingGoofball]

Killing nom is something I would have done as scum. Hammering NK is not. I would have gone all in on bussing NK from the start and I sure as hell would not have pushed the players I have generating as much content as there is because a low info, low profile day would've enabled me to coast to end game after bussing.

For the record this is one of the reasons I am clearing jjh.

jjh was one of the pushers on NK15, early, often, pretty hard.

He hopped OFF at the end of the day.

Scum that bus tend to commit to the bus; it's usually only town who hop off of a wagon on scum in the manner jjh did.

GOOD POINT, I'll take a dozen.

[DrippingGoofball]

I agree that Titus is town.

[Titus]

Killing nom is something I would have done as scum. Hammering NK is not. I would have gone all in on bussing NK from the start and I sure as hell would not have pushed the players I have generating as much content as there is because a low info, low profile day would've enabled me to coast to end game after bussing.

For the record this is one of the reasons I am clearing jjh.

jjh was one of the pushers on NK15, early, often, pretty hard.

He hopped OFF at the end of the day.

Scum that bus tend to commit to the bus; it's usually only town who hop off of a wagon on scum in the manner jjh did.

Jjh hopped off after it was inevitable. He didn't really push me or detract from NK15. His vote on me was a vanity, make a point vote. He still was comitted to an NK15 scum flip.

[House]

Maybe not FMFT actually

Might be a scum in my townreads

But Titus is very likely to be scum here. I think her stance on NK15 has been that she doesn't want to bus but she will if it reaches that point

could we focus on nk15 as a flip there would add fire to who i think is scum..

UNVOTE:

...

Interesting.

i dont want a hammer till we know for sure. nm wants it bad that pings me

Nm would hammer his mother.

Also, I don't think we should do this. Hammering a commuter claim is garbage. We can just tell NK15 to not commute so we can investigate him. If he complies, we have an unkillable town slot. If he claims compulsive or refuses, then yeet his ass.

Titus is town.

Thing is, how does Titus even know we have an investigative role at all, considering she's not a stump?

I believed your tracker claim? Afterwards I reset that.

Wrong answer. 2015 happened on d1. Gambit happened at opening of d2.

You're scum with TMI. I'm good with eliminating you & FMFT.

[Titus]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

[Moongrass]

Nice house.

[House]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

You based your excuse for assuming there was an investigative role on my d2 gambit, but you leaked knowledge of an investigative role in d1, before my gambit occurred.

You pulled your explanation out of thin air.

[Titus]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

You based your excuse for assuming there was an investigative role on my d2 gambit, but you leaked knowledge of an investigative role in d1, before my gambit occurred.

You pulled your explanation out of thin air.

Supposing an investigative role exists is pretty normal. An investigative role would have got a guilty anyway.

[House]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

You based your excuse for assuming there was an investigative role on my d2 gambit, but you leaked knowledge of an investigative role in d1, before my gambit occurred.

You pulled your explanation out of thin air.

Supposing an investigative role exists is pretty normal. An investigative role would have got a guilty anyway.

And that would have been a much better explanation than trying to point at my play a day after you made that post.

[mastina]

Mastina how strong is your townread of the hydra? I need someone to sanity check me there.

Weaker than ideal, almost included them in the initial list of possible bussers but then my gut told me not to and that they are town. For the time being, I'll trust that gut.

[Titus]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

You based your excuse for assuming there was an investigative role on my d2 gambit, but you leaked knowledge of an investigative role in d1, before my gambit occurred.

You pulled your explanation out of thin air.

Supposing an investigative role exists is pretty normal. An investigative role would have got a guilty anyway.

And that would have been a much better explanation than trying to point at my play a day after you made that post.

You specifically accused me of knowing that you were an investigator, not that one existed generally.

[Moongrass]

Titus and House both town misunderstanding each other lol.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

@mod can we have a VC, thanks.

[mastina]

Jjh hopped off after it was inevitable.

Precisely!

What's the scum motive for hopping off of a wagon on scum after the wagon on scum is inevitable?

I can think of none, because as you yourself state, if the wagon was inevitable, leaving the wagon doesn't do a scum-jjh any good because there's no hope of saving NK15.

What's the town motive for hopping off of a wagon on scum after the wagon on scum is inevitable?

I can think of literally dozens of reasons. Among them what you said yourself: vanity, to make a point, still committed to the scum flip, etc. All traits I would expect to come from town.

[House]

What does that have to do with your gambit?

You based your excuse for assuming there was an investigative role on my d2 gambit, but you leaked knowledge of an investigative role in d1, before my gambit occurred.

You pulled your explanation out of thin air.

Supposing an investigative role exists is pretty normal. An investigative role would have got a guilty anyway.

And that would have been a much better explanation than trying to point at my play a day after you made that post.

You specifically accused me of knowing that you were an investigator, not that one existed generally.

When did that happen?

I wasn't even sus at all until 2169, and I didn't even mention or even think about my gambit in that post.

[House]

Titus and House both town misunderstanding each other lol.

Not every extended back and forth is TvT.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

VOTE: Titus

Kinda want to try something completely different

This is because you know NK15 is town.

I don’t think this fake.