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[petapan]

ftr there's a very good chance T3 and titus are scum together and he was shitbussing her

[Titus]

so, with regard to setup stuff, i would recommend looking at the roles in gypyx's previous two normal games:

mini 2169: random facts
mini 2180: fake peoples

gypyx is probably the most distinctive mod working in the normal queue right now, in that he really likes to play around with modifiers and combined roles and have atypical power distributions in his setups. expect claims to be wacky bullshit. here's a list of the town PRs in those games (avert your eyes here if you're DGB):

Town Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop

Role Watcher Neighbor
Town Ascetic Indecisive Doctor Neighbour

Town 1-shot Bulletproof Vengeful
Town Novice 3-shot Vigilante

Town Roaming Detective
Town Backup Roleblocker
Town Lazy Odd-night Tracker Even-night Motion Detector
Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbor
Town Disloyal Hider

in mini 2180, my scumteam was very easily able to exploit people making bad assumptions about the setup balance in order to get easy eliminations ("surely there aren't two investigative roles in the setup, right? that's too much town power"). i want to make sure that doesn't happen this game, so i'm informing people now so they don't go off making bad assumptions and getting weirded out by claims this game. you can bet your ass as scum i never out this because i'm the only one in this playerlist who's played in a game he's hosted, and keeping this sort of info hidden has significantly more benefit for scum as it allows people to make dumb assumptions about claims

this doesn't make the neighbor claim inherently town but giving scum an announcing PR would be pretty dumb

I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.

[Gypyx]

VOTE: anya™

This is T3’s last vote.

thanks

[Andresvmb]

DotW claimed cop inno on dgb though.

Can you point me to this please?

[petapan]

this doesn't make the neighbor claim inherently town but giving scum an announcing PR would be pretty dumb

Has DGB not taught you anything? Hahaha don’t make mechanical assumptions you can’t possibly be sure of.

shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim

the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum

[petapan]

I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.

does announcing state the role type or just the visit?

[Andresvmb]

the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum

I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.

[Titus]

I played an announcing role as scum. Ironically, I faked babysitter that game.

does announcing state the role type or just the visit?

Just the visit.

[Andresvmb]

shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim

Oh and there was some sarcasm embedded in there. Sorry it wasn’t completely obvious haha

[Dwlee99]

DGB + DotW + Titus all just insisting they are a town block gives me the heeby jeebies.

In case people ever need to come back to this to solve the game, I can only confirm DGB and myself as town. Titus is just a read right now

I interpreted this an inno result @andre

[Titus]

the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum

I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.

Disagree wholeheartedly but cannot explain why.

[petapan]

right, it would say voyeur

titus played a Loud role, not an Announcing one, different categories

anya is for sure a voyeur

the thing is we will likely know if anya was blocked by a town or mafia action

and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her

[Titus]

and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her

I totally missed this. Where were these?

[petapan]

the case on anya was shit to begin with and never had substance beyond "she isn't posting and was trolling about the hood" which is convincing to the knuckleheads in this game but doesn't have a lot to do with actually being scum

I 100% agree with you there, which is why I’m fighting it. It’s a horrible “case” and a total stretch, and only makes sense from players that have literally never seen Anya play ever.

all right cool rock on

who do you think is trying to latch on to the wagon as scum? i think dgb is likely just doing dgb-esque things where she just tunnels lurkers for lurking. i get why you didn't like the overconfidence but that's probably entirely stylistic

shrug don't care, i feel the roles are reasonably predictable here and it likely gets sorted out in mass claim

Oh and there was some sarcasm embedded in there. Sorry it wasn’t completely obvious haha

oh no worries then lol

[Anya]

oh yeah i forgot i did that

[Andresvmb]

DGB + DotW + Titus all just insisting they are a town block gives me the heeby jeebies.

In case people ever need to come back to this to solve the game, I can only confirm DGB and myself as town. Titus is just a read right now

I interpreted this an inno result @andre

Well if you spotted this the Scum probably did too since it’s quite blatant.

I don’t think that comes from Scum, for what it’s worth.

[VFP]

UNVOTE: Anya

[petapan]

and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her

I totally missed this. Where were these?

oops i just dropped my

491 revolver

that i use for cooking betting go into my workshop

gun room

so i can get a replacement before

petapan

does

i mean like maybe that could be interpreted as a vig but regardless probably an easy block target

[Andresvmb]

who do you think is trying to latch on to the wagon as scum? i think dgb is likely just doing dgb-esque things where she just tunnels lurkers for lurking. i get why you didn't like the overconfidence but that's probably entirely stylistic

I think Titus is Scum. If they caught the Cop crumb from DotW there with an Inno on DGB (seems likely), then attaching yourself to that group makes a lot of sense. DotW just seems way off to me so I understand it I suppose. Ugh I probably need to read this game again.

[petapan]

yeah i have isues with titus and her blaming lurkers for her own lack of content rings terribly hollow

[Titus]

and considering she unsubtly softed a gunsmith type action scum would have ample reason to block her

I totally missed this. Where were these?

oops i just dropped my

491 revolver

that i use for cooking betting go into my workshop

gun room

so i can get a replacement before

petapan

does

i mean like maybe that could be interpreted as a vig but regardless probably an easy block target

That only makes sense though if you're scum if you buy that as a crumb though. If it's a vig crumb, then they would let town!anya shoot town!peta. If it's a vig crumb, then town!anya would be blocked if scum peta. If it's a gs crumb, then town anya might be permitted to target town peta but never scum peta.

If it's scum anya, it's crumbs for a fake that DotW took off the table.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

My most recent completed game had a town rolestopper so I could see that being a reason for no Anya result @titus.

[petapan]

also the thing where people go "claim weird, hmm might be fake, want to vote it anyway" is exactly what i did as scum in mini 2180 because it's very easy to abuse

voyeur isn't some particularly amazing role that would be a shame to lose (in fact it sucks ass) but given the announcing modifier it's at least verifiable, and scum will likely have to choose between blocking anya and targeting someone with an actually good pr night 2 so there's no point voting her

[petapan]

If it's scum anya, it's crumbs for a fake that DotW took off the table.

so she claims an announcing role instead? shut up titus