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[Salsabil Faria]

Will I pass?

I can't guarantee it, but you can definitely pass the salt, if you please.

[nomnomnom]

Babysitters wouldn't give a guilty in any situation because it's not an active kill.

It did in that setup. Trust me. It was an open-setup and the rules said it would.

I believe you, but then the parameters are different, you're talking about an open setup here, and the normal rules don't account for passive kills to be accounted for a psychologist/detective. So it's a different reasoning

[cyrus62]

i just dont see scum making this post .

you've said that but i want to understand why you think so

i have no answer ok . plus im having a hard time keeping up. i think i made a mistake trying so hard to play to many games.

[cyrus62]

VOTE: cyrus62 this talk is getting us no where . when i flip town check monkey. ps i just cant keep up right now.

[humaneatingmonkey]

claim?

[Salsabil Faria]

E-1 I suppose

[Almost50]

Spoiler: @nom

Setup Info:

Aliensitter Needed!

13 Players:

1x Town Lover Babysitter - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Babysitter; can't self-target
1x Town Lover Alien - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Alien_(role) protects from kills, can't self-target
1x Town Macho Psychologist - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Psychologist
7x Vanilla Townie
1x Mafia Cowardly Encryptor - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Encryptor
1x Mafia Motion Detector - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... n_Detector
1x Mafia 2-shot Roleblocker - https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker

Lover - If a Lover dies by any means, their partner also dies instantly (this cannot be stopped). Lovers know each other's identity and have a PT, where they may talk at night.

Mafia daytalk is dependent on the survival of the Encryptor.

Cowardly - Unable to carry out the nightkill until they are the only mafia alive (which also means that Psychologist will yield a "not able to kill" result on them until that happens).

Macho - Any protective action targeted at this player (including abduction) will automatically fail.

Psychologist will yield a "can kill" result on the Babysitter.

If the Alien dies, the Babysitter's death will

not

trigger the death kill on their target.

Daystart. Mafia win upon parity with the town.

Mafia cannot multitask.

Mafia Roleblocker

action trumps the

Town Alien

action, if that were to apply.

[cyrus62]

claim?

i just did vt.

[humaneatingmonkey]

kewl.

VOTE: Cyrus62 Hammer

[Almost50]

it would only take a scum aware that their team (or themselves) is a roaming "something" to come up with a roaming "something".

Why would Scum be given ROAMING anything? What purpose would it serve to get scum to target one player only once??

[cyrus62]

so now that thats done as i said boxy isnt lieing. so check monkey to see why he wanted to lynch a pr.

[nomnomnom]

it would only take a scum aware that their team (or themselves) is a roaming "something" to come up with a roaming "something".

Why would Scum be given ROAMING anything? What purpose would it serve to get scum to target one player only once??

I could think of a role that could be a bit broken if you could repetitively target the same player over and over

[Almost50]

Like think about it too. From a setup perspective, in what situation do you decide to add a roaming modifier to a detective? Detective is already somewhat on the weaker side of role (I estimate it less useful than a tracker, taking into account the same scum makes all the same kills, which is likely in a setup where mafia isn't multitasking by default), why would you nerf it on top of that with a roaming modifier? Like now that the role is claimed you can see it has now become a role that is 90% useless unless you somehow hit the scum committing the nightkill. That is it. You are getting at most one guilty. How is that a role a moderator includes in a setup?
Normally I am wary of outguessing the mod situations but here it just strikes me as a claim that scums can easily make because it does not clear anything, and you can go the whole game without claiming a single guilty and still manage to explain how you will not die on every night by (correctly) saying your role is justifiably weak so it does not warrant a nightkill from the scums.

I guess the designer didn't foresee you making a bad push that results in outing the PR, so didn't take this into account.

[Salsabil Faria]

^This doesn't even have anything to do with boxxy's content. The ROLE itself is 100% Town, and is hard for Scum to fake.

Why can't you fake that?

Because >I< didn't know what ROAMING was. I don't think Scum tend to search for unknown/uncommon modifiers when tailoring their fake claims.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12667595

Not sure if the fake claim here is that uncommon but if you want to save your a** then you have to think out of the box.

[cyrus62]

i wouldn't lynch nom they anit scum regardless

[Almost50]

Box is kind of player with old account, empty hole and claims to be playing offside.

His play may need to be checked by the VAR system

[cyrus62]

as for every one else peace love and happiness. have fun and dont fight to much.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so now that thats done as i said boxy isnt lieing. so check monkey to see why he wanted to lynch a pr.

why though

[cyrus62]

Box is kind of player with old account, empty hole and claims to be playing offside.

His play may need to be checked by the VAR system

pushing boxxy is a bad idea move on. im sure you guys can do it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

making a bad push

what's bad about it?

[Kerset]

Salsabil do you ever make nonquestion posts? You keep asking asking but there are no conclusions out of it.

Read all the posts and then count and let me know how many 'asking' posts I made with no conclusion.

Without deep reading it would be 17

Spoiler:

Sixth!

No vote?
Hmmm suspicious.
pedit:
he knows what he did

Nope, I'm too scared to vote because then you'll see my TMI.

I want to see your TMI

Too bad.

Hmm....
Tood bad in a town way or a scum way??

Non fluff though, current reads:

Cyrus - wolf

Everyone else who has posted thus far - Town

Aahahaha.....
You rolled scum, aren't you?

Does someone on a new forum that knows no one who rolls scum usually stick their neck out to push the game out of fluff?

I guess I can see the TMI of yours now....

VOTE: Seanzie

Btw, did you play forum mafia or any sort of mafia game anywhere else before?

Wagon on Seanzie seems way overblown? What am I missing?

He seems (newb) scum to me.... what do you think?

rvs votes dont mean nothing for one for two im a wild card . so i tend to make games wild . you seem to be trying to hard relax and have fun gee. we just started . you will see me casting votes every where when i think people are scum . even when i said they were town. plus no two games of mine are the same.

cyrus got scared, pressure worked well

scared no . angry yes i was trying to have fun and he went that rout .

Are you short-tempered?

i feel so good rolling town i hope i catch scum !

i don't want to vote so early but the scum could be anyone!

i guess i'm just gonna vote for the Mod for making me town! i wanted so bad to be scum

why do you act out of meta?

What is his meta? Can you share 1/2 game links?

Still waiting to hear townreads from people.

Who do you think is town atm?

Sup nerds.

VOTE: salsabil

Is it RVS or serious?

right now i have mostly nulls.

town i think i get town vibe from nom. but wont know for sure till we get going.

i see kerset as more lay back town to be honest i wont vote them yet.

sean to me is feeling town like the way hes pushing feels like hes trying to short maybe a bit fast for my taste but still.

salsabil gets a scum lean from me.

Your reason to scumread me?

Sup nerds.

VOTE: salsabil

Is it RVS or serious?

It's serious,

Reason?

cyrus62 (3): Seanzie, nomnomnom, boxxy

Ah yes, E-1

opps they changed it to e-2 and e-1 ok im at e-1 and seans at e-2

@cyrus62

, how serious it was?

my bad i thought it was 5 . not 7

Did you play mini normal ar any normal set-up game(s) before?

This feels like a reach, and possibly dishonest. Cause I didn't even vote monkey, i just said I support a policy lim at end of day if they don't contribute more.

VOTE: nomnomnom

In other news monkey moves to slight townlean.

What changes your mind?

Seanzie, he townleaned me out of nowhere from #222. My posts before #222 were horseshit.

Give me a second to look to see if I agree with your assessment of your own posts.

Okay, yes #222 was before you actually started posting game-related content. I agree that him switching to a townread there is bad.

But not scummy enough to you? See my 256.

While I am confident most of this wagon is comprised of town I feel strongly that at least one of Cyrus and Salsa are scum

Fot the argument's sake, assuming

cyrus62

is the town between us, how it makes me scum to you?

I think that Cyrus not knowing we weren't in a newbie with 9 players (hence that whole "I'm at e-1!!" drama) is a town slip? Unless it was ultra planned to give off that impression, but he doesn't strike me as that kind of player at all.

Daytalk enabled for all PT's.

Also, he was only @3 votes, so not even in a 9-players setup would he have been @E-1

So you're scumreading him or not?

@Dwlee99

, how often you are playing here? Your joining year is 2015 but didn't see you much before.

If

cyrus62

flips town, will

boxxy

be cleared?

Cool! Now how many of the questions aren't answered yet?

5 speaking from memory
and now we got another question of yours, which leads towards no conlusion

From these 5 questions, 1 is kept ignoring by

cyrus62

while he is online.... rest of the 4 I think towards other people who aren't online yet or not game related.
So, you can't be exaggerated that I'm having no conclusion.

17-5=12 Although it is pointless to count.
The fact that your posts do nothing is not the valid counterpoint here. The initial point stands as you make bunch of noise with questions and do not make any useful analysis.

[cyrus62]

so now that thats done as i said boxy isnt lieing. so check monkey to see why he wanted to lynch a pr.

why though

im the type of guy who plays fair. good job . town good job.

[Kerset]

hem, why (for first time?) you are agitating people towards an elimination? I think about your cheering towards box death. Did you hope to early pressure him or what?

I don't understand this question. Don't you want to pressure your scumreads to see what happens?

but was this your intention back there?

[Almost50]

Don't understand..... can you explain your thought process?

Which part? The example or the trio?

[cyrus62]

fatia isnt scum trust me.