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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:38 pm

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being readable is bad, actually.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 425, Thestatusquo wrote:being readable is bad, actually.
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Saying someone is obvious as town is inherently saying they have a shitty scum game.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:48 pm

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<---has most obvious meta, still gets scum read
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:57 pm

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I always make myself as readable as possible as town and as unreadable as possible as scum.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:58 pm

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I dont think that works out favorably for your scum game.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 pm

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Nor ur town game
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 429, Thestatusquo wrote:I dont think that works out favorably for your scum game.
It does not, but tanking a town game you are currently playing so that you can win a scumgame in the future breaks mafia rule 9, the way I've always interpreted it.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:48 pm

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In post 431, Isis wrote:It does not, but tanking a town game you are currently playing so that you can win a scumgame in the future breaks mafia rule 9, the way I've always interpreted it.
I agree. You should argue that you're completely readable and obvious town as both alignments. The trick is to get people to think there's a stark difference between your games when there really isn't. I have not yet figured out how to do the second half, so if anyone knows how, I'd like to know.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:51 pm

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In post 431, Isis wrote:
In post 429, Thestatusquo wrote:I dont think that works out favorably for your scum game.
It does not, but tanking a town game you are currently playing so that you can win a scumgame in the future breaks mafia rule 9, the way I've always interpreted it.
It's tricky because being super readable when town but not Scum kind of breaks that rule in the other direction.

I think there's a ton of players on the site these days who only care about being town read as town and basically cannibalize their whole scum game to accomplish that.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:02 pm

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i have no idea how one would strike that balance. i guess the ideal is a player who you know has a good scumgame but you're pretty is town
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game. and in this scenario that's good play regardless of what that player's alignment is.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:02 pm

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*pretty sure is town.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:19 pm

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In post 433, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 431, Isis wrote:
In post 429, Thestatusquo wrote:I dont think that works out favorably for your scum game.
It does not, but tanking a town game you are currently playing so that you can win a scumgame in the future breaks mafia rule 9, the way I've always interpreted it.
It's tricky because being super readable when town but not Scum kind of breaks that rule in the other direction.

I think there's a ton of players on the site these days who only care about being town read as town and basically cannibalize their whole scum game to accomplish that.
You shouldnt think about sets of games when you play, just play the current game to win.

I think there is a trend of people playing to the concept of getting townread as town is a subgoal that should always be doable and then they roll scum and don't care about getting townread in the same way and it's kind of a apathetic fractional trust tell yeah.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:20 pm

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I always care more about getting townread as scum because I think it matters more for wincon.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:37 pm

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i care about getting townread as both alignments, as town it's so i don't become a miselim/forced to claim as a PR. but i know i go about it differently.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:54 am

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Everyone welcome pooky, StD and Shiro.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:56 am

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Lol cats and dogs fight each other

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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:57 am

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Spoiler: remaining scum number spoilers
Cats are all gone now. 1 Dog and 2 Rats remain.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:12 am

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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:13 am

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Welcome to the show
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 am

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If town elims correctly today they still have a shot despite 4 miselims.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:20 am

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hello Pooky!

i think it's a rat win.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:23 am

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I'm enjoying watching town try to parse the NK data because honestly its just pure happenstance that it hasn't been 3 kills most nights.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:25 am

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Yeah that was definitely confusing
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:16 am

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I really dislike this type of game. I think I wouldn't join another like this even if shea was modding unless MURDERCAT convinced me again
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:17 am

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When you say this type of game what do you mean out of curiosity.
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