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[boxxy]

Either way I think the play is nom today and if he flips town then bambi tomorrow.

The only alternative is if nom claims miller, I'll have to think if I'd believe such a claim.

[Bambi Jay]

I mean if you dont push him, Nom won't believe I have an actual guilty and won't kill me tonight so I can find his partner later.

This right here, I don't see this happening if nom is scum. 100% you take the shot at the PR.

Then that will happen, you elim them next, then you only have one scum to worry about. I trust you guys will be able to solve the game with 1 scum left.

Plus then your role is a true inno or guilty with only one killer left. Win-Win.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Bambi Jay, why did you target nom?

[Almost50]

edit: *if there's two town investigative roles

I can

guarantee

you there are 2 Town Investigative roles, and it has nothing to do with Bambi's "hint". Your role can only catch scum who have killed, right? And you can't even check the same person twice. This means scum theoretically could have assigned only one member to do all the kills and get you to give soft/fake clears all the way until you catch their killing member. That sounds big time broken. There has to be a "counter part" of you (a Psychiatrist) and they have to be gated too.

I won't say much more because it's not exactly pro-town to say it. Just trust me when I say there's another Investigative out there.

[boxxy]

edit: *if there's two town investigative roles

I can

guarantee

you there are 2 Town Investigative roles, and it has nothing to do with Bambi's "hint". Your role can only catch scum who have killed, right? And you can't even check the same person twice. This means scum theoretically could have assigned only one member to do all the kills and get you to give soft/fake clears all the way until you catch their killing member. That sounds big time broken. There has to be a "counter part" of you (a Psychiatrist) and they have to be gated too.

I won't say much more because it's not exactly pro-town to say it. Just trust me when I say there's another Investigative out there.

I don't have enough experience to know what makes a setup truly balanced so I'll take you at your word.

[Bambi Jay]

Bambi Jay, why did you target nom?

To read him better. Duh.

Using your investigate on a universal scumread is stupid. Using it on someone like Nom to confirm a bus or not is way better considering they could coast to endgame otherwise.

[humaneatingmonkey]

So why nom specifically, vs other people?

[Bambi Jay]

I counter your "why?" with a "why not?".

Also is that an actual monkey or a CGI one? What's it's species?

[humaneatingmonkey]

You're being very dodgy with your thought process, and I can't trust that. If you can be more illustrative, this will help us read you and will help the town that you want to help.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Instead of being dodgy, what we'd rather hear is your thought process choosing nom vs other viable candidates in the wagon. Or did you just yolo it?

[Bambi Jay]

I thought the "why not?" Implied a Yolo anyway but that doesn't make the guilty any less of a guilty.

[Bambi Jay]

You also dodged my monkey question.

[Kerset]

why do i feel that this day will also last 24h

If you've caught scum, you've caught scum. No need to play around.

Instead of being dodgy, what we'd rather hear is your thought process choosing nom vs other viable candidates in the wagon. Or did you just yolo it?

cool

[humaneatingmonkey]

Cool, so you yolo'd it.

An investigative who yolo'd it in the eliminated scum's wagon, who only remembers 5 standouts in #740, and hasn't even fully caught up before #772, who's very dodgy in their thought process, dodgy in their guilty result, and dodgy in their role mechanics.

On top of it all, claims a guilty result on one of the strongest town slots in this game.

What a hard sell.

[Bambi Jay]

Fmp I saw 1 scum was gone and he looked like he wanted it to not look like a bus. Sacraficing weak players as scum for towncred is a valuable trait that gets you to endgame. I yolod the shot then thought about it more afterwards and it makes sense to me.

Also, look at it the way Box described. If I'm evil and you elim Nom today and they flip inno, then I die tommorow and you deal with 1 scum.

Why would I do that as scum?

Almost, what Monkey does he got? He's avoiding the question and won't play with me even though he's a "troll" player.

[Kerset]

If bambi doesn't want to openclaim then there is a reason behind it. Digging it, only favors scum as they learn more about the thing they shouldn't.

[T3]

Here's a slip Dwlee, I got a guilty on Nom but ain't gonna do anything with it today since I'd rather have fun this way instead.

I think ik what bambi is but Iwon't say it.VOTE: nomnomnom

[Almost50]

Almost, what Monkey does he got? He's avoiding the question and won't play with me even though he's a "troll" player.

I am letting him play it all out until he hangs himself with his own tail.

FTR, ISO me vs him. See my reaction to his entrance. I may have lightened up a little since, but it doesn't mean I have him as a "clear".

BTW, my Full read list looks like this:

Definitely TOWN

:
Almost50, boxxy, Seanzie, Kerset, Rathe/Bambi Jay

Possibly Town

(have some reservations/paranoia):
Dwlee99, Salsabil Faria

Null:

T3, MaxTheFox

Scummy

:
humaneatingmonkey

SCUM

:
nomnomnom


I'd advise you/anyone to to do a triple-ISO of cyrus/nom/HEM and re-evaluate their reads accordingly.

Like, who votes/pushes boxxy the most? That trio. T3 backed off as soon as he realized the claimed role wasn't what he thought it was. T3's push thus wasn't agenda-y. Who pushed Seenzie (and for what)?? Who finally gave up and voted cyrus?? Scum ARE nom & HEM.

VOTE: 3 noms

[T3]

Almost, what Monkey does he got? He's avoiding the question and won't play with me even though he's a "troll" player.

I am letting him play it all out until he hangs himself with his own tail.

FTR, ISO me vs him. See my reaction to his entrance. I may have lightened up a little since, but it doesn't mean I have him as a "clear".

BTW, my Full read list looks like this:

Definitely TOWN

:
Almost50, boxxy, Seanzie, Kerset, Rathe/Bambi Jay

Possibly Town

(have some reservations/paranoia):
Dwlee99, Salsabil Faria

Null:

T3, MaxTheFox

Scummy

:
humaneatingmonkey

SCUM

:
nomnomnom


I'd advise you/anyone to to do a triple-ISO of cyrus/nom/HEM and re-evaluate their reads accordingly.

Like, who votes/pushes boxxy the most? That trio. T3 backed off as soon as he realized the claimed role wasn't what he thought it was. T3's push thus wasn't agenda-y. Who pushed Seenzie (and for what)?? Who finally gave up and voted cyrus?? Scum ARE nom & HEM.

These are pretty much just my reads.
VOTE: 3 noms

[T3]

Oop the quote broke.

[Dwlee99]

What is even happening this game? I'm so lost

[boxxy]

Cool, so you yolo'd it.

An investigative who yolo'd it in the eliminated scum's wagon, who only remembers 5 standouts in #740, and hasn't even fully caught up before #772, who's very dodgy in their thought process, dodgy in their guilty result, and dodgy in their role mechanics.

On top of it all, claims a guilty result on one of the strongest town slots in this game.

What a hard sell.

Hahaha, you're not going to save your scumpartner monkey. You should have bussed when you had the chance.

[Bambi Jay]

Follow the smart people, Dwlee. Or not.

I'm just waiting for Nom to appear tbqh. But it seems everyone wants to vote him already.

VOTE: Nom

That's 3 votes now right?

[boxxy]

Trying to fake powertown duo was a bold strat I'll give you that. If Bambi didn't get lucky it might have even worked.

But this complete reversal from reckless wagon pushing to all caution "I don't trust bambi yet," without even acknowledging that its guaranteed scum kill over 2 days might as well be a scumclaim.

[nomnomnom]

You better retract that guilty because this kind of reaction play is pretty awful.
There's literally another normal that has ended recently with someone faking a guilty and making town lose on the spot.
So I'll leave you a single post to retract that guilty, Bambi