Open 815: Forest Fire Redux [Endgame]

[skitter30]

Nakata disagrees that skitter30’s posting doesn’t feel survivalists and thinks that skitter30!town would have engaged with Nakata in a less confrontational way if skitter30 were town.

Sorry i shouldnt be so confrontational, i apologize

[Hectic]

I repped in thinking that was a scum slot. I had my great plan to steamroll hectic while he's rusty since he hasn't played with me recently. Oh well. I'll get you next time just you wait!!!!

Since when has Noraa desired the sickly sweet suffering of scum?

[Hectic]

I'm gonna be catching up but be warned it's gonna be really slowly, like maybe over several hours

Not sure why but mafia feels mostly like a chore/work to me nowadays, when it used to be 100% fun. There are good moments where I feel like I'm having a lot of fun but then most of the time it's forcing myself to post as if it's an obligation

Basically I need an actual break after this game and not to cave in and join anything that looks tempting for a while

[Hectic]

Ydrasse and hectic's conversations make me think they're both the same alignment which is impossible if they are scum so that means they are probably both town? I think if there's scum, it's hectic but I'm not revealing the reason yet otherwise I'll get tunneled. I should have a solid read on infinity bc she's my soul mason but I don't and that's weirding me tf out. Like she's being strange. Idk I'll wait some more. I should be able to read her >:(

Prism feels scummy????? Why do people townread her? Every single one of her posts reminds me of Cabd in that one game where he was deacon blues that cakey hosted.
Lukewarm is pretty eh. He's contributing a lot less to the game than when I last saw him. I'll set him to the side because Prism is so much scummier. Literally why/does anyone townread Prism?

Enters scumreading the two most consensus-town slots in the game, classic Noraa. Want to say it's towny and reminiscent of her scumreading Oka in Dark Waltz

[Hectic]

i also think the timing of flipping off of child onto hem is also sus given that it was obvious a child wagon wasn't happening at that point

I don't think this is true at all. I switched back to monkey when he had 1 vote, Fairy Child had 2. As scum, I don't revive the monkey wagon just as it's basically died because I'm worried monkey's gonna go through and I'll look bad by being off

monkey was clearly putting in a lot of effort to survive and he'd finally managed to get everyone off him but Prism, you think I kill the only other wagon in Fairy Child who I'm currently on and switch to my partner who has a VERY good chance of making it out alive? And it's not like Fairy Child was the only viable option either, T3 for one was definitely pushable

I don't think you believe in the reasons you're giving to scumread me at all. You were sus of me yesterday for flip flopping too much between Fairy Child/monkey, saying you think I'm just trying to push anything through, and I wasn't surprised to come in today and see you continuing to scumread me, but now instead because I bussed monkey

Gonna be honest, if I was bussing monkey, you'd see some much more clear reasons from me, closer to that of a case, and I'd would try and make a more active effort to appear like I'm pushing it through. I would be focused on reaping the towncred from his flip, rather than lazily bussing with little reasoning when monkey is a strong partner to keep around and certainly could've come out alive

[Hectic]

you need a better explanation for why i push you over fairy child because pushing you doesn't make sense in the narrative that you're pushing me for and the bolded doesn't cut it

You came into a gamestate where I was a viable wagon and you saw reasons you could push me for, perhaps reasons you thought you find easier to fake/explain than if you had to push someone else like Fairy Child - I can't know for sure. everyone's already addressed the fact I was absolutely a viable counterwagon EoD

[Hectic]

and hectic admitted to basically looking for reasons to scumread child and that he wasn't inherently scumreading them before that (980)

this is a towntell for me funnily enough

if it seems like I'm looking for/faking reasons, it's because I am and not trying to hide that fact. In my last game with Infinity, I was town and called out for the exact same thing of seeming like I was searching for a scumread and reasons

I don't think I've ever been accused of doing that as scum because I always try and make my pushes feel genuine

I can DISH OUT the self-meta now that I plan to take a break after this

[Hectic]

There is legitimately no good reason for skitter to townread me here if she is scum. There is none. Right now, people mostly agree we are limming one of her or me? There's no reason to be town reading me here as scum. Literally none. I admit, I am much harder to lim than my predecessor from what I've seen but there is still no reason to townread me. Even leaving me to be a mislim option later and setting that up now is > than being like Noraa is probably town.

Hard disagree simply because scum!skitter would recognise the fact that you're far more likely to vote her if she's sus of you

I'll give the thread time to breathe. I also want to know what Hectic's read on skitter is. And Lukewarm.

Scum and town

There is a nonzero chance I just outsource the Noraa/Ydrasse reads to Hectic, but I'd much rather do that as a last resort

It'll cost ya

I don't think skitter believes:

• I wasn't a viable EoD counterwagon
  
• That I as scum would just try to push "anything through" for the lols
  
• That I would lazily bus monkey in a fashion where my actions helped kill monkey, but I did little to make my words appealing

[Hectic]

Noraa you got better! No matter your alignment. I like this noraa

I agree!

I don't really think there's a consistent townblock and really hate the concept of townblocking in general even if it could be applied here.

Curious as to where the Mario simp is/what he's thinking atm

I created the concept art for mario? If anything, nintendo simps for me

This Nakata fellow who refers to himself in third person seems very mysterious... have I played with him before?

[Hectic]

The secret alt culture that's originated on this site is honestly sickening

[Hectic]

I like Nakata's catchup

Nakata is still reading up and is aware that he is perhaps confirmation biased. However Nakata mostly thinks that a number of players have towntold and that your predecessor was not very towny, plus you were off the D1 wagon which Nakata has seen you do as scum before when believing that your buddy is salvageable. Nakata needs to have more context, but given that you won’t be actually removed from the game if town, Nakata is mostly happy to go for what seems like the easy win and to then let out dictate the lim tomorrow if Nakata is wrong on you. Nakata doesn’t consider himself a premiere town player by any means, but Nakata feels that Occam’s razor is that you’re scum.

Very good

Occam's razor the player trying hardest to defend monkey and trying to push a counter to monkey is monkey's partner who wanted to monkey to survive and go far with them

I really think we win with a skitter chop

[Hectic]

But yeah i'm going to hardpush hectic tomorrow fyi

Honestly don't care and I'll take the mutual chopping if I'm wrong, we still get 1 or 2 more chances

[Hectic]

I feel a strong affinity towards Nakata

Infinity/Nakata locktown
Prism/Lukewarm strong town
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T3/Noraa
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skitter

Someone should hammer and collect the rewards

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: skitter

[Noraa]

I'll bite. I don't really think skitter is scum but it doesn't matter. Like if skitter is scum, game over and I placed the hammer so double bonus. If skitter is town, we're still in an okay position since we hit scum day 1. I'm not worried.
Pedit: I didn't even finish okay then

[Infinity 324]

:)

[Noraa]

Skitter better be scum. That way I don't even have to catch up :O

[skitter30]

I am not, see y'all tomorrow

[Noraa]

I also placed an air hammer so Infinity and I can share the credits.

[Noraa]

I am not, see y'all tomorrow

YIKES. And now I have to read

[skitter30]

Can we at least do fast night plz

[Noraa]

And hectic is probably scum also. I'll try to type the case before thread closes but this is a bookmark for now.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah fast night

[Noraa]

Can we at least do fast night plz

Yeah fast night please.

[skitter30]

Sigh
Fwiw i'm sus of both hectic and nakata