Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[House]

Honestly, I think it's just this easy.

VOTE: cyrus62

On his red flip, yeet Moon when I die in the night.

[Moongrass]

Hydra/Titus are my scumreads assuming NM is legit. Next in line would be house.

Everything you said!

Except... the exact opposite of that.

What is the opposite?

Look at that list I quoted.

Everything about it is wrong.

So what's right?

[Moongrass]

Like in a world where NM, mastina, gamma are town that leaves cyrus, titus, house, me, hydra containing two scum. Jjh I left out because my scumreads on him were predicated on mastina also being scum.

So house, where are the two scum? In Cyrus and me?

[House]

Like in a world where NM, mastina, gamma are town that leaves cyrus, titus, house, me, hydra containing two scum. Jjh I left out because my scumreads on him were predicated on mastina also being scum.

So house, where are the two scum? In Cyrus and me?

Scroll up.

[jjh927]

@EE, Can you explain how we're at autowin here?

Don't ask mechanical questions of the stumps

I'll ask what questions I want to. They can shut me down if they want.

My guess is they're overlapping their reads with guesses as to the setup rather than an autowin.

My theory is NK15 was consensus because the other option was you.

We lead into this

It just isn't the kind of VCA we get from town!Titus

We can look at the votecount

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, Moongrass,

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter Enabler

You are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.

Then consider the players that unvoted just so we wouldn't get a quick hammer- that is, myself, House, Cyrus-

That's 10/13 players, plus both stumps saying to elim the slot. You can go back and look at everyone's development and opinions on the NK15 slot. And yet what Titus comes out with is a confirmation bias laced theory that does not appear to have factual basis.

[House]

Then consider the players that unvoted just so we wouldn't get a quick hammer- that is, myself, House, Cyrus-

Look at the way cyrus unvoted.

He was fine with a lolhammer until after I unvoted.

After I unvoted and negated a lolhammer, THEN he unvoted.

[cyrus62]

you see house is driving mislynchs. and you lot follow him. i'll make this easy put me to l1 i'll hammer if you guys lynch house when i flip town

[jjh927]

I would like to reiterate that NK15 was such a consensus elim that there were only 3 players who did not vote there- Gamma Emerald, Titus, and NK15 himself.

Titus is the only one who appeared to actively oppose the elim despite an earlier readslist listing him as null and saying she would be fine to vote him if it came to it. Basically the entire game wanted to elim NK15, except for Titus.

[Moongrass]

House isn't driving anything. We failed on one titus wagon already, it's not happening again.

[House]

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea
If this is happening then I want in

This was an ugly vote. My trigger finger is itchy.

you were the 1st to vote them VOTE: moon that is a bad post moon try again

But I thought you were going to come after me with a d2 town flip?

You're extremely inconsistent.

this is true but i didnt die so i gave you town cred for that.

DrippingGoofball

,

mastina

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Not_Mafia

,

cyrus62

Mia and Maya Fey

,

jjh927

Moongrass

,

Titus

,

House

,

My current reads.

Why is House so low? Other than that I’m probably close to agreeing with this list fully

house was mocking fmft before the flip like i give him town cred move house to null

you see house is driving mislynchs. and you lot follow him. i'll make this easy put me to l1 i'll hammer if you guys lynch house when i flip town

Fucking. Lol.

[jjh927]

When a town player makes fallacious arguments based on their own flawed understanding of the game, their thought process is at least coherent if you understand the mistakes they have made along the way

That's just not the case for Cyrus here- I think it's pretty clear that most of what he says is whatever he thinks is convenient for him to say at any given time based on his interpretation of the gamestate

[cyrus62]

When a town player makes fallacious arguments based on their own flawed understanding of the game, their thought process is at least coherent if you understand the mistakes they have made along the way

That's just not the case for Cyrus here- I think it's pretty clear that most of what he says is whatever he thinks is convenient for him to say at any given time based on his interpretation of the gamestate

can you make that shorter so i have a new sig.

[House]

Maybe not FMFT actually

Might be a scum in my townreads

But Titus is very likely to be scum here. I think her stance on NK15 has been that she doesn't want to bus but she will if it reaches that point

could we focus on nk15 as a flip there would add fire to who i think is scum..

UNVOTE:

...

Interesting.

i dont want a hammer till we know for sure. nm wants it bad that pings me

You were all for it until

after

I left the wagon.

I'm just saying, y'all...

[jjh927]

Maybe in the postgame since you can't sig things until after the game anyway

[House]

jjh if you vote NK now so I can hammer then I will target titus tongiht

VOTE: nk

UNVOTE:

Waiting for nsg

UNVOTE:

[House]

Oh, there was only a minute between the unvotes.

I thought it was longer.

Never mind that.

[cyrus62]

Maybe in the postgame since you can't sig things until after the game anyway

thanks

[cyrus62]

Oh, there was only a minute between the unvotes.

I thought it was longer.

Never mind that.

yea i unvoted becuse how hungry nm was to hammmer there and nsg askd us not to.

[cyrus62]

also i had said i wasnt going to hammer or vote nk . before hand but my read was wrong on them.

[House]

Idk... if Titus is scum, I don't see it.

Like, I won't WK her, but I don't see myself voting her.

[cyrus62]

Idk... if Titus is scum, I don't see it.

Like, I won't WK her, but I don't see myself voting her.

that was my stance on nk. i wont discredit you if she flips scum or the rest if she flips town. we make mistakes . that is why i askd nm to check you. lmao maybe we should just vote no untill nm checks enough. people jokeing joke i do that sometimes.

[House]

UNVOTE:

... I'm lost in this game.

[House]

VOTE: jjh927

Pretty much PoE. I've never had a townread on you based on your own merits. I was basically sheeping others who townread you.

That's just not good enough anymore.

[House]

Titus
House
DrippingGoofball
Not_Mafia
Gamma Emerald
mastina
cyrus62

PoE votable wagons.

Moongrass
jjh927

Left out:
Mia and Maya Fey (need to cogitate on this)

[House]

House
DrippingGoofball
Not_Mafia
Gamma Emerald
mastina
Titus
cyrus62

PoE votable wagons.

Moongrass
jjh927

Left out:
Mia and Maya Fey (need to cogitate on this)

Lol edit. Forgot to reorder her name from the list I copied.