Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[cyrus62]

Titus
House
DrippingGoofball
Not_Mafia
Gamma Emerald
mastina
cyrus62

PoE votable wagons.

Moongrass
jjh927

Left out:
Mia and Maya Fey (need to cogitate on this)

nm needs to clear mia i cant read them maybe its because its two people.

[Moongrass]

That's a scum readslist.

[House]

That's a scum readslist.

Okay.

[House]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

fuck you guys for making the day end early. i came in and saw the day was hammered when i finally got time.

see yall on saturday.

[House]

fuck you guys for making the day end early. i came in and saw the day was hammered when i finally got time.

see yall on saturday.

That was yesterDay.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

what kind of cheap fucking discred is this?

are you fishing roles?

[cyrus62]

huh

[Mia and Maya Fey]

fuck you guys for making the day end early. i came in and saw the day was hammered when i finally got time.

see yall on saturday.

That was yesterDay.

this was my response to the previous day yes.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

im trusting nancy to take the wheel for now.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

It weird me out that I vibe with mastina's reads.

I expect elaboration on this before I get back to this thread next.

[House]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

what kind of cheap fucking discred is this?

are you fishing roles?

If one of them was Mason, it absolutely is me fishing that info out.

If one wasn't, I don't give a rat's patootie what they chose.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

what kind of cheap fucking discred is this?

are you fishing roles?

If one of them was Mason, it absolutely is me fishing that info out.

If one wasn't, I don't give a rat's patootie what they chose.

cool and nancy believing a claim should lean town to u if you're actually being charitable considering that scum clearly have some info and balance blatantly leaning towards the chosen roles based on the flip and an OP role like that would have a counter, like say, a bulletproof enabler.
how did you reach the conclusion of that leaning scum?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

what kind of cheap fucking discred is this?

are you fishing roles?

If one of them was Mason, it absolutely is me fishing that info out.

If one wasn't, I don't give a rat's patootie what they chose.

cool and nancy believing a claim should lean town to u if you're actually being charitable considering that scum clearly have some info and balance blatantly leaning towards the chosen roles based on the flip and an OP role like that would have a counter, like say, a bulletproof enabler.
how did you reach the conclusion of that leaning scum?

based on the NK flip*

[House]

I feel threatened.

I'm a bulletproof, supersaint Mason.

Is this for real? Norwee how could you not make me a mason?

Random thought... if Fey hydra is scum, them blindly believing my lolclaim may be leaking knowledge of masons.

If one of the stumps submitted a Mason PR, we should yeet the Feys.

what kind of cheap fucking discred is this?

are you fishing roles?

If one of them was Mason, it absolutely is me fishing that info out.

If one wasn't, I don't give a rat's patootie what they chose.

cool and nancy believing a claim should lean town to u if you're actually being charitable considering that scum clearly have some info and balance blatantly leaning towards the chosen roles based on the flip and an OP role like that would have a counter, like say, a bulletproof enabler.
how did you reach the conclusion of that leaning scum?

based on the NK flip*

Between the IC and NM's results (and townreading him because I believe him), that leaves you, Titus, cyrus, moon, and jjh.

I townread Titus & cyrus.

That leaves you, moon, and jjh that I haven't developed a townread on.

Moon, I'm a bit worried about because of all the buddying. It's not like we've ever played a game together so I don't understand why they've been treating me like besties and that concerns me.

jjh, I've been sheeping others who have been calling him town but that's not enough anymore.

Nancy jumping to believe a mason claim could be a leak that she knew there is masons in the game because of the roles allotted to scum.

Nothing I'd consider damning for either of you (assuming a stump doesn't speak up on my theory). Basically, PoE.

[House]

Also, if you're wondering why I was hard defending you on d1, it's because I was trying to bait the NK by making scum think we were masons, which you wrecked when you asked me why I townread you so hard.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Who's ignoring them?

Norwee didn’t want to rush the day.

I don't see the day being rushed

We had 7 days left before deadline.

Day 2 got rushed. This day isn't being rushed.


Day 2 didn't get rushed because people weren't listening to the stumps. It just got rushed- I would say partly because certain people weren't at all careful about what people were getting voted up to, and MAINLY because Not Mafia is a serial lolhammerer and while we accept this as a force of nature it is genuinely just unapologetic bad play

True, people just rushed that elim.

[Gamma Emerald]

@EE, Can you explain how we're at autowin here?

Don't ask mechanical questions of the stumps

I'll ask what questions I want to. They can shut me down if they want.

My guess is they're overlapping their reads with guesses as to the setup rather than an autowin.

My theory is NK15 was consensus because the other option was you.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

No, meant confirmable, as in my role can be confirmed

While I'm skeptical of this as Not_Mafia doesn't look town by play to me and N_M's claim is all over the place, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt here.

It's cute that you're trying to solve JJH but unless there's some extreme fuckery in the scum PR's this is an mechanical win from my POV.

I will also trust this.

If N_M is a town investigative that is conftowning me and Gamma, then that means possible scum would be:
Titus
cyrus62
jjh927
Mia and Maya Fey
House
Moongrass

Vote Count 1.01

Free Money Free Tea (4):

House, Not Known 15, nomnomnom, Moongrass,

Vote Count 1.03

Mia and Maya Fey (4):

jjh927, mastina, Not Known 15, Free Money Free Tea,

Vote Count 1.08

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, jjh927, Moongrass, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball,

jjh927 (4):

Mia and Maya Fey, Not_Mafia, Titus, cyrus62,

I would be incredibly comfortable calling jjh town here--I'm town, DGB is town, nomnomnom is flipped town, so the only possible busser on NK15 at this stage is Moongrass, meaning the wagon was largely town-driven. And while Not_Mafia if we're trusting him to be a town investigative would thus inherently be town, the rest of the jjh wagon doesn't look so good.

Vote Count 1.09

Not Known 15 (5):

mastina, nomnomnom, DrippingGoofball, House, Free Money Free Tea,

House's hop-on here could be a bus tho as the jjh wagon was waning and no wagon was replacing it. (The closest is the Moongrass wagon...which has two conftown players, per N_M's result, and the flipped scum.)

Vote Count 1.11

Not Known 15 (4):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, cyrus62, Mia and Maya Fey,

cyrus and Mia/Maya Fey join the list of possible bussers imo.

Moongrass technically could be an early bussed-while-it-was-still-distancing-then-decided-to-rejoin-the-wagon-later, altho I would genuinely say that Moongrass looks town.

So we're guaranteed to have one busser--if Titus isn't scum, guaranteed to have two.

VOTE-wise, I would rank most likely scum busser to least likely scum busser as House > cyrus > Mia and Maya Fey > Moongrass > jjh

PLAY-wise, I would rank most likely scum to least likely scum as...honestly, not sure; House looks town, cyrus's earlygame sucked but later play looked town, Mia and Maya Fey had a dismal earlygame and their latest contributions are in line with that but their midgame looked pretty town; Moongrass has looked town to me the entire game; jjh has looked town to me the entire time; even Titus has had moments of townness.

Loosely speaking my most town to least town would be something like:
jjh

Moongrass

Mia and Maya Fey ~= cyrus ~= House

Titus

Can't vote Titus tho because that'd be L-1 on her with Not_Mafia not already voting her.

And I'd like to reiterate that I've not got good reads right now. Everyone not conftown has reason to be town, when two people are going to be scum.

You know that’s not true Mastina because I only voted NK15 after he voted me. I had no idea who I was going to vote for before then.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Vote Count 3.01

Titus (4):

jjh927, Moongrass, cyrus62, Mia and Maya Fey,

House (0):

Moongrass (0):

Mia and Maya Fey (0):

jjh927 (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (6):

DrippingGoofball, Titus, House, mastina, Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia,

With 10 alive, it takes

6

to euphemize and

5

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2021-06-27 16:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

This VC is incorrect

. Mia voted Moon

@mod, this is correct, please fix. Thanks.

[House]

Vote Count 1.FINAL

Not Known 15 (7):

mastina, Free Money Free Tea, Mia and Maya Fey, DrippingGoofball, nomnomnom, Not_Mafia, Moongrass,

Moongrass (1):

Gamma Emerald,

Free Money Free Tea (1):

Titus,

Mia and Maya Fey (1):

Not Known 15,

Titus (1):

jjh927,

nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):

No Euphemization (0):

Not Voting (2):

House, cyrus62,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to euphemize and

7

to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.

A Hammer has been achieved!

Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter Enabler

You are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.

I think my PoE pool is pretty accurate, and there is likely 1 scum on and 1 scum off the wagon.

I also believe the commuter enabler did not activate a town commuter, or one of the stumps would have vetoed the hammer as the claim was for commuter.

Scum most likely did not bus until the lim became inevitable.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh ok. Well who would you vote for then?

I would vote for jjh (obviously). I would honestly vote for most of the thread tbh.

A consensus d1 elim and a consensus d2 miselimination doesn't tell me much besides the fact that scum are driving the eliminations.

Does this look like town!Titus VCA?

She doesn't have any viable mislims left because the net is closing

I mean it’s not even VCA imo

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I am pretty sure Titus is scum here though

I think you’re wrong.

[House]

I am pretty sure Titus is scum here though

I think you’re wrong.

On that, we can agree.

What are your reads of Moon & jjh?

[Moongrass]

Also, if you're wondering why I was hard defending you on d1, it's because I was trying to bait the NK by making scum think we were masons, which you wrecked when you asked me why I townread you so hard.

I saw that.