Newbie 2068 | Lofi Beats to Play Mafia To | Game Over

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 1.01

Cook (1):

MiniMegabyte

MiniMegabyte (1):

GrandpaMo

JamesTheNames (1):

Zyla

Zyla (1):

Cook

T3 (1):

Val89

Val89 (1):

JamesTheNames

No Elimination (1):

VFP

Not Voting (2):

alstroemeria,

Zyla

,

GrandpaMo

,

Val89

,

JamesTheNames

,

Cook

,

VFP

, T3,

MiniMegabyte

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-06-27 12:00:00)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Note:

I will usually be unavailable from ~3pm to ~2:30am Monday to Friday (Saturday morning, technically). I might see PM's during those hours if I check the site on my phone but I won't be able to post votecounts or anything of the sort. I'll be making sure deadlines don't fall during those times.

[GrandpaMo]

Hi, I'm VFP and I have never played with anyone in this player list.

VOTE: No lim

Hm. As an SE, I find it surprising you'd open with this. Why not a random vote, or some questions to get the ball rolling?

That is such a weird thing to point out wtf. LOL

Spoiler:

CRASH

The skylight breaks open.

Down on a bungee cord, Cook comes sailing down in all her majesty. Into an earpiece, he responds to someone, "

See what I told you? It worked,

" before addressing the rest of the shocked patrons.

Okay, first of all, very rude initial vote on me. Second, VFP, you've played with me before, I was just running the game. Sorry about the misgame by the way. And the infrequent votecounts.

it was my first time, okay?

Now, to the rest of you. Hello, I'm

Cook

, and I play Mafia sometimes. Pronouns – basically all of them, haven't explored neopronouns. There's very little way to disrespect 'em. Look for what I use to refer to myself.

I recognize VFP, T3, and MiniMegabyte. Welcome, newcomers!

Cook searches her coat. "

I left my random vote in here somewhere... AHA! Wait, don't want to cast a vote for T3...

"

Furious scribbling occurs.

VOTE: Zyla

I was curious and looked through some of your threads, of the ones that I checked, this is the only one with this type of opening. What made the cook decide to spice up the meal today?

Unless T3 improved a lot from the last time we played, he doesn't look like scum based on his meta. That said, I'm not ruling him out entirely since meta does change over time, but we'll see!

I appreciate the sentiment but I sincerely doubt anyone can form an actual meta read on page 2.

True, but it's worth seeing your response

[GrandpaMo]

vc

DANG ALMOST HAD IT

[Zyla]

What's weird about pointing out the no elim vote?

[GrandpaMo]

What's weird about pointing out the no elim vote?

it seem like you were obliged just to follow up on it as being a scummy thing to do to no lim as an rvs

[Zyla]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying there

[GrandpaMo]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying there

nvm its irrelavent anyways, just thought it was funny the way u pointed it out lmao

[VFP]

Grampa likes to pocket me as scum for the record.
He knows that my only weakness is compliments and calling me town!

It may be too late for me, but you all have to stop... gnnnnhr

Grampa is looking town so far.

Zyla maybe town, I don't see anything scum motivated to point out the no lim and as an experienced player probably just isn't used to this.
T3 has a T3 town start so we'll see.

Thats 3 pages, 3 reads! A read per page!

[MiniMegabyte]

I don't like this post.

I didn't put it there for you to like. If you don't like the way i start then I'm sorry but I've seen it done before i can even link a game if ya like

[MiniMegabyte]

which considering how advanced the game state is we can start to stop chucking random votes around,

Uhh isn't that supposed to be done from day dot?

[MiniMegabyte]

MiniMegabyte is clearly trying to insinuate that she has no personal knowledge of VFP, particularly as this comes of the back of VFPs explicit (and as it turned out - also false) statement that they don't know anyone in the game.

Ever thought it might be, wait for it.... A joke??? Wow! Who would've thought that at the beginning of the game people joke around

[MiniMegabyte]

See where I am going with this? She also specifically and pointedly says "Nice to meet ya!" instead of "nice to meet you". We all know English is one of those languages where 'you' can refer to a singular or an individual. Using it here would be natural, avoid the wavy red line most modern day browsers would assign to the word, and give her the benefit of the ambiguity if anyone paying attention catches it. Instead, we get the informal 'ya', standing in contrast to 'y'all', which to me is a further indication the introduction is addressed specifically to VFP and she wants us to know it.

I am not sure how this makes me feel. I really think you are just looking way too much into this. Its a game I am not exactly gonna come out being nasty

[MiniMegabyte]

So; VFP townread, MiniMegabyte scumread,b] everyone else [/b]null. I think it's pretty clear given that set of reads where my vote should go. I'm going to put my vote where it obviously belongs, and strongly feel that we should make them the elimination for the day. Obviously there is quite a bit of time left before deadline, and I would like to see some more discussion, but I will put my vote on them and see what happens with the rest of the votes. Being the first, I won't be able to hammer, but I want to make it clear that I would be prepared to hammer, and it will take a lot now to convince me to switch my vote.

With all that said: VOTE: T3

Uh what?

[Val89]

i don't know if you were serious at all

No, I wasn't.

and realized it was just a BS post to make it seem long, with no content providing and voting someone other than your scumread xD

Absolutely correct. It was a straight-forward RVS vote dressed up in the style of a serious wall post. You correctly identify the most obvious punchline there, but I dropped a few other things that should have made it clear it was entirely non-serious. I don't really claim to have invented the acronym 'WIFOM', to take another example. Of course, if it transpires that

MiniMegaByte

is scum, I reserve the right to imply I was in fact being serious and I knew from day one.

My post #27 was equally non-serious. Technically, reading you as null was serious, but the reasons equally BS. The clue there was the fact the that you HAD put your vote on one of the 3 - and Cook, MiniMegaByte and me are definitely 3, by the way - with the kicker being the reference to

alstroemeria

, whom was yet to be mentioned. I read you as null because I was reading everyone as null. There is nothing upto #27 I consider indicative either way.

Who would've thought that at the beginning of the game people joke around

Indeed.

you can see how it's bad and you should admit that.

To be clear - I do nothing of the sort.

[JamesTheNames]

I'm still happy with my vote.

[Val89]

Perhaps you could elaborate?

I'm still happy with my vote.

Should I take that as no?

I am aware OMGUS is a thing, and I am trying to guard against it, but I am starting to get vibes I don't like here.

[JamesTheNames]

Perhaps you could elaborate?

I'm still happy with my vote.

Should I take that as no?

I am aware OMGUS is a thing, and I am trying to guard against it, but I am starting to get vibes I don't like here.

Why're you so desperate to leave the RVS stage? We haven't even had all players post yet.
Secondly, hypocrisy. You made a claim or a suggestion about the scum team, the serious-ness of it is irrelevant. I did the same. Thus 36 I find hypocritical.
This was mentioned in 38. You ignored it or didn't see it. Either way.
I like the idea of tunnelling day 1 I will warn you of this.

[VFP]

RVS sucks

[Zyla]

RVS sucks

True, but it's one of two options I know of to get the ball rolling. If you don't like RVS, how would you prefer town getting conversation going?

[JamesTheNames]

RVS sucks

So does a no lim

[T3]

RVS sucks

True, but it's one of two options I know of to get the ball rolling. If you don't like RVS, how would you prefer town getting conversation going?

Town.

[VFP]

RVS sucks

So does a no lim

You take that back!

[Val89]

Why're you so desperate to leave the RVS stage? We haven't even had all players post yet.

My reason for dressing up an RVS vote in the amount of verbiage I did was to make sure there was at least something substantial to discuss. I thought between that, and "hi im new; hah your name suks vote: random" the former would at least give us all something to bite at from page 2, maybe draw out something to work with. I believe it has. As soon as it has, the RVS stage is done, right? We have something serious to discuss.

Secondly, hypocrisy. You made a claim or a suggestion about the scum team, the serious-ness of it is irrelevant. I did the same. Thus 36 I find hypocritical.

You said the same in #38, and I addressed it in #42. I'm not following. I made a claim or suggestion about the scum team. So did you. I said I like that approach, and would like to encourage more of it. You somehow thought that stance was hypocritical. Perhaps I am misunderstand the meaning of the word, but hypocritical to me is engaging in behaviour you criticize others for.

I'll give you benefit of the doubt, I personally think

"as you can see, I am a fan of getting right to the heart of it, and your page 2 solve is just sort of thing I like to see"

is pretty clear I wasn't leveling any sort of criticism and instead praising it, but I'll assume you took something in my tone as somehow sarcastic and I was in fact trying to direct some sort of veiled shade towards you.

I should clarify, "your page 2 solve is just sort of thing I like to see" was a serious statement. I like the fact you came out with a solve straight off the bat - and I was attempting to encourage more of it.

I can't, however, think for the life of me why you would read that and STILL believe I am somehow being disingenuous. In fact, only one scenario makes sense - you are scum, and so hypersensitive to any sort of shade whatsoever that you read it where it isn't there - and in fact, continue to do so when pointed out explicitly that it isn't.

I think anyone reading my ISO can see I've taken a consistent approach here. I make a rando solve, you make one, I say 'good on you, lets have more of that, and maybe have some more discussion about it'. I'm failing to see the hypocrisy.

But in any case, lets compare and contrast your approach here with Town!James in the only completed game I have to look at, namely #2064. For context, you replaced into the game into a slot D1, and having read the thread you quickly postedthis list of reads, with justification for each.

Some of the stuff said here is very interesting -

my personal opinion is post length isn't indicative but can be a nod in a direction with enough context.

I happen to agree. I'll let others read how you opened your town game and compare it to this one, and see if that's context enough for them. It is for me.

he may not enjoy walls, but a "why" wouldn't hurt to have. Meh.

Explains himself, nice

Please post more

It appears he is actually bothered by certain people's post quality and relavance, annoyance at lack of content being created, I'm not very experienced but this just feels towny to me

I mean, its pretty clear that Town!James thinks that talking openly and honestly about your reads and votes, early and often, is pro-town behaviour and based almost all of his initial reads off some variation of that exact justification. You go ahead and, as town, make sure you include your own justification without prompting, from the open.

And then this game, we get this:

Oh well. I am satisfied with my vote.

I'm still happy with my vote.

Yeah, I've seen enough now to convince myself I'm not falling in to OMGUS trap.

VOTE: JamesTheNames

[Cook]

val posts infrequently and walls. noted.

[T3]

I don't post anything over 5 lines unless I'm scum.