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[nomnomnom]

Again, it doesn't matter to me. Salsa/Sean/Boxxy are all good lims and I'll go for any.
I have a slight preference for Sean here again because I know for a fact that Cyrus likes to distance a lot with his partners and it might be more of a psychological thing where he would actually be way too anxious as scum to make posts like he made his game towards actual townies.

[nomnomnom]

The preference is if we were to believe that all the claims so far have been genuine, that is. So yeah.

[nomnomnom]

Furthermore, if any of you want to believe that boxxy is town, then that means that anyone that was on boxxy yesterday could be scum. And yes that includes me and HEM. But Sean and Salsa have more dodgy reads towards boxxy and it feels like real opportunism.
Just keep that in mind, and that Cyrus likes distancing early with scumpartners because he is scared of doing those sorts of interactions with townies, and you have a good picture of who is the remaining scum
VOTE: Sean

[humaneatingmonkey]

Doing a re-read now.

VOTE: Seanzie Weird to conclude that Cyrus is wolf and everyone else who has posted is town at post #26.

[Salsabil Faria]

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Cyrus felt the pressure. That could throw off his usual game.

Yeah that can be true.... which makes me wonder, why the other 2 scums didn't do anything about it.

See the thing about salsabil is that her defending Sean here, despite the reason being bad,

Which reason of mine you think is bad?

If I can establish a TvS relationship with Salsabil and boxxy, I might go with Salsabil. Otherwise, I'm very happy with a boxxy elimination.

Did you mean you choose to eliminate me over

boxxy

here? If so then show me your thought process behind it please.

Cyrus is a force of nature. That's the answer

Don't get it.

Non fluff though, current reads:

Cyrus - wolf

Everyone else who has posted thus far - Town

Aahahaha.....
You rolled scum, aren't you?

Okay what the fuck

What is your question??

Spoiler:

Sixth!

No vote?
Hmmm suspicious.
pedit:
he knows what he did

Nope, I'm too scared to vote because then you'll see my TMI.

Sure!

VOTE: cyrus62

Sixth!

No vote?
Hmmm suspicious.
pedit:
he knows what he did

Nope, I'm too scared to vote because then you'll see my TMI.

I want to see your TMI

there we go. so whos up for a wild game. or do you prefer a slow burn?

Sixth!

No vote?
Hmmm suspicious.
pedit:
he knows what he did

Nope, I'm too scared to vote because then you'll see my TMI.

I want to see your TMI

Too bad.

If this is the team it would have to masterful scum theater. Don't find this likely at all as the solve.

Lol! It's not even theatrical.

Why not Dwlee? That's not hard theater at all. It's not even theatrical.

Mind melding

[Kerset]

I'm a roaming detective

I didn't even know what Roaming was.

OK, this is a 100% TOWN claim. Detective determine3s if a player HAS killed (if the target is Mafia who has NOT killed they get a negative result). This reminds me of a game I played recently where I suggested the

Detective

Psychiatrist targets the same players twice, so if they get "Can Kill" on N1 and "Can't Kill" on N2 that's a GUILTY (Psychiatrist is the opposite of Detective), so I think Roaming was added here to prevent that sort of guilty (although it would still be more suitable used with a Psychiatrist). Ohm and that game had a BABYSITTER in it, which is why I suggested the check would be on the same person, because the babysitter would not appear to have killed until/unless they were dead themselves)

for the record, A50 imminently believed in boxxy claim

[Kerset]

Seanzie (5): Almost50, Bambi Jay, Kerset, nomnomnom, humaneatingmonkey
Almost50 (1): Seanzie

Not Voting (4): MaxTheFox, boxxy, Dwlee99, T3, Salsabil Faria

[Kerset]

6 to elim so E-1

[Dwlee99]

I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

I'm trying to re-read.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Consider this pseudoE-1

[Kerset]

I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)

and you also care about claim... i hope

[Salsabil Faria]

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I would never do something this ballsy, so I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of other people doing it.

The most important thing in a game of mafia is to establish what kind of scum players people would be if these people rolled scum.
Sean and Salsabil? I would totally see them doing this kind of stuff. They're the types of scum players who like refuge in audacity and stuff like that. I know this. They just scream they're that type of player to me

If over confidence has a face!

Spoiler:

This time it's about you

What is being suggested though is that at the beginning of the game, scum!Sean immediately pushed Cyrus, and then Salsa and Cyrus counter bussed him, and the day culminated in Cyrus getting hard bussed by both Sean and Salsa. Calling each of the scum buddies scum to start the game just seems like way more attention than scum should want.

Which I'll never do as scum.

Well I guess I'll make it clear I townread Box and won't vote him (unlike SOME people) today at all. If we actually listen to Nom and Monkey and co, and elim one of our PRs and scum shoot Almost so we lose both our investigatives, I'm gunning for the man eating Monkey.

It's a good point though I'm thinking about

boxxy

tbh but who do you want to flip then?

salsa use spoiler tags, you spam the thread

Wall posting is one of my things.

Spoiler: Have it or Leave it

[nomnomnom]

I don't believe you need to read his scumgames to establish he is very likely scum here.
There are multiple things that corroborates this:

• Cyrus likes to distance with scumpartners. One of cyrus' very early game interaction was Sean.
  
• If boxxy is town, then his interaction regarding boxxy, which was to basically using him to discredit both me and HEM (especially me) and yet say "I still don't trust you!" is incredibly scummy oriented, as it creates a paranoia situation towards the 3 slots.
  
• Sean has a legitimate reason to NK kyouko here. Not only because it would leave town!boxxy alive (which me and HEM were adamant on pushing) but also because Kyouko established a significant threat to scum!sean

That's a lot of things pointing towards scum!sean here.

[nomnomnom]

Mind you, a lot of these points also apply to Salsabil.

[Bambi Jay]

Salsa can finally be ready to interact in real-time. Woohoo.

[Kerset]

Salsa can finally be ready to interact in real-time. Woohoo.

maybe even after 666 questions he will give us a read on something

[Kerset]

she

[Dwlee99]

I am tempted to lolhammer only cause yesterday I hit scum with it but I'm not comfortable voting there until I can read Seanzie's scum games (which requires getting admin approval to sign up on the forum apparently??)

and you also care about claim... i hope

Cyrus didn't get to claim but that case was a little different so yeah that's important.

I don't believe you need to read his scumgames to establish he is very likely scum here.
There are multiple things that corroborates this:

• Cyrus likes to distance with scumpartners. One of cyrus' very early game interaction was Sean.
  
• If boxxy is town, then his interaction regarding boxxy, which was to basically using him to discredit both me and HEM (especially me) and yet say "I still don't trust you!" is incredibly scummy oriented, as it creates a paranoia situation towards the 3 slots.
  
• Sean has a legitimate reason to NK kyouko here. Not only because it would leave town!boxxy alive (which me and HEM were adamant on pushing) but also because Kyouko established a significant threat to scum!sean

That's a lot of things pointing towards scum!sean here.

Mind you, a lot of these points also apply to Salsabil.

Salsabil I have a townread on because she seems like she genuinely is hunting / caught scum!Cyrus and I'm not voting there today l.

I mean I see your points on Sean but seeing how he acts as scum normally is super important to know if he would make a ballsy play like immediately try to kill his scum buddy, even if I normally hate meta.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I enjoy playing both town and scum. I like gambiting a lot as either alignment. I also tend to go very hard to see how people react, but will stop and take a step back to re-evaluate often so that I don't get too confbias-y with my pushes or clears.

Sean, what happened to this player? I haven't seen him in this game.

[Kerset]

claim?

i just did vt.

[Salsabil Faria]

READ-LIST

Townread:
Seanzie
humaneatingmonkey
nomnomnom

Townlean:
Almost50

Null:
T3
Bambi Jay
MaxTheFox
Kerset
Dwlee99

Scumread:
boxxy

Well I guess I'll make it clear I townread Box and won't vote him (unlike SOME people) today at all. If we actually listen to Nom and Monkey and co, and elim one of our PRs and scum shoot Almost so we lose both our investigatives, I'm gunning for the man eating Monkey.

I want to vote

boxxy

but this post makes me to think again, so I'll not touch him atm or any of my townreads and townlean.

[T3]

Intent to hammer.

[nomnomnom]

I want to vote boxxy but this post makes me to think again, so I'll not touch him atm or any of my townreads and townlean.

And that leaves you with who to vote?

[OutWorldER]

Official Vote Count 2.02

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elimination

With 11 votes in play it takes 6 to eliminate a player

Seanzie (4): Almost50, Bambi Jay, Kerset, nomnomnom
Almost50 (1): Seanzie

Not Voting (6): Salsabil Faria, T3, MaxTheFox, boxxy, humaneatingmonkey, Dwlee99,

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-06-24 12:38:28).

Mod notes:

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