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Post Post #3025 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 3009, House wrote:
In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Am I the only one noticing how jjh is only throwing out simple posts that take 30 seconds or so to put together to try to get a response that requires effort in return?

That doesn't seem either game-solvy or town, to me. It's scummy to conserve energy and attempt to exhaust town, and that's exactly what it looks like.
That’s a valid opinion but I’ve also seen town attempt the same move
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Post Post #3026 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 am

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In post 3024, House wrote:
In post 3022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like if Titus is scum then House is the one that's really tryharding to get the elimination away from them while Titus is just being real lazy right now and not efforting because they're scum and faking effort is hard.
Right.

Because Titus is so terrible at playing scum.

Makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.
Titus has bad games, they're not the perfect player as you seem to try to picture them to be. I've played in a newbie with them some time ago and i've never seen them be more obvscum in my life.
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Post Post #3027 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 am

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In post 3022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like if Titus is scum then House is the one that's really tryharding to get the elimination away from them while Titus is just being real lazy right now and not efforting because they're scum and faking effort is hard.
Also, not trying to get the rumination off a town read would be paying against my win con.

I'd do the same if anyone else aside from Moon or jjh were being wagoned.
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Post Post #3028 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:32 am

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Conversely, how bad a towngame do you expect me to believe she is playing?
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Post Post #3029 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 3027, House wrote:
In post 3022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like if Titus is scum then House is the one that's really tryharding to get the elimination away from them while Titus is just being real lazy right now and not efforting because they're scum and faking effort is hard.
Also, not trying to get the elimination off a town read would be paying against my win con.

I'd do the same if anyone else aside from Moon or jjh were being wagoned.
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Post Post #3030 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:32 am

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I really do hate the "He's usually GOOD as scum so if you scumread him he is actually town!!" aka, some nerds argument everytime i've played with scum!FL ever.
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Post Post #3031 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 3028, jjh927 wrote:Conversely, how bad a towngame do you expect me to believe she is playing?
I expect you to "believe" whatever forwards your agenda.
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Post Post #3032 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 3021, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game
most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.
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Post Post #3033 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:34 am

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Yeah I don’t like that argument myself either
NO ONE is above getting scumread correctly. Unless you quit after one scumgame where you snowed everyone I guess, but if you did you’re the exception not the rule.
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Post Post #3034 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:35 am

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I also jumped off to prevent a quick hammer

There are two players who actively opposed an NK15 elim- NK15 and Titus
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Post Post #3035 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:37 am

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This is Titus' entire vote history
In post 1088, Titus wrote:VOTE: jjh
In post 1860, Titus wrote:VOTE: FMFT

This is what my cursory look at the votes tells me if I can't get jjh.
In post 2131, Titus wrote:VOTE: cyrus
In post 2147, Titus wrote:Sure.

VOTE: FMFT
In post 2635, Titus wrote:
In post 2607, Moongrass wrote:Or no kill because the pool of suspects was shrinking especially if NM claimed today.
This is still levels of yucky.

VOTE: Moongrass

The amount of forcing he's trying to do to avoid the logical conclusion of a protected kill is baffling.
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Post Post #3036 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:39 am

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I would not be remotely surprised if, over the course of the entire game, Titus had not voted a single scum player
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Post Post #3037 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:40 am

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In post 3032, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3021, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game
most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.
Where do you get that it was "led" by me?

I wasn't even the first one on the wagon.
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Post Post #3038 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:41 am

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In post 3036, jjh927 wrote:I would not be remotely surprised if, over the course of the entire game, Titus had not voted a single scum player
She clearly voted for 2 scum.
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Post Post #3039 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:43 am

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In post 3037, House wrote:
In post 3032, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3021, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game
most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.
Where do you get that it was "led" by me?

I wasn't even the first one on the wagon.
you made the gambit, you also push hard on it on day one. you basically kepth pushing fmft . untill the were elim.
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Post Post #3040 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:44 am

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In post 3039, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3037, House wrote:
In post 3032, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3021, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game
most likely. but its like this . 1st hammer i wasnt on becuse nsg said to wait so i hoped off to prevent a quick hammer. but with that said i was going by a poe on every one not on it. house , jjh titus . me and gramma . then the last hammer . was a myslych lead by house. so yes i could be misreading you.
Where do you get that it was "led" by me?

I wasn't even the first one on the wagon.
you made the gambit, you also push hard on it on day one. you basically kepth pushing fmft . untill the were elim.
The gambit was on you, not FMFT.

If anything, my fake guilty on you undermined any currency I had on selling a wagon on d2.
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Post Post #3041 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 3015, jjh927 wrote:I asked you for something you still haven't given me

Is your moon scumread entirely POE or what? Do you actually believe he is scum?
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Post Post #3042 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:47 am

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i dislike being called a bad player. im here to just have fun. so i come off wired but normally im just making guises.
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Post Post #3043 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:52 am

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In post 3041, jjh927 wrote:
In post 3015, jjh927 wrote:I asked you for something you still haven't given me

Is your moon scumread entirely POE or what? Do you actually believe he is scum?
Still not processing information that's been posted already.

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Post Post #3044 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:54 am

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Nope, you haven't said either way
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Post Post #3045 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 3041, jjh927 wrote:
In post 3015, jjh927 wrote:I asked you for something you still haven't given me

Is your moon scumread entirely POE or what? Do you actually believe he is scum?
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Post Post #3046 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:56 am

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In post 3025, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3009, House wrote:
In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Am I the only one noticing how jjh is only throwing out simple posts that take 30 seconds or so to put together to try to get a response that requires effort in return?

That doesn't seem either game-solvy or town, to me. It's scummy to conserve energy and attempt to exhaust town, and that's exactly what it looks like.
That’s a valid opinion but I’ve also seen town attempt the same move
You're better than that trite garbage.

Any action *CAN* come from any alignment. It's all a matter of probabilities.

Sure, town can be lazy and throw out half-hearted posts in an attempt to make others effort, but when they're called on it, they tend to put in effort themselves.
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Post Post #3047 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:57 am

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If you can give me literally ANYTHING that couldn't be given to me by a lazy scumplayer who has gone through a list, determined players they think they need to mislim, and called it a POE, then now is the time
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Post Post #3048 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:58 am

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so should we tar and feather house or what?
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Post Post #3049 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:59 am

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jjh is doubling down on vapid, empty posts because he knows that he doesn't actually have anything worthwhile to talk about.

PEdit: and lol at him implying I'm the lazy one when he's literally refusing to do ANY footwork.
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