Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I kinda making an assumption again
However I

really

am starting to feel like moon has some inside info on this alleged no-kill plot

[Gamma Emerald]

I have discussed lots of things so saying my focus has been on one throw away point about the no kill is an exaggeration.

I don’t think it’s the ONLY thing you’ve mentioned
I just think you’re on of the leaders in that conversation

[Titus]

Ugh. I just saw a minor problem with my House Cyrus scumread. Unless Cyrus didn't mention the sig bet thing, then it's unlikely their partners. Yet their push and jabs read fake to me.

:/ I think it's more likely that House and Cyrus didn't run it past each other but a reasonable person could see it differently.

[Moongrass]

Well that's impossible given I have no idea what the scumteam are doing which may point to Cyrus being on the team (no offense)

[Gamma Emerald]

my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.

...

WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll say Titus’ posting toDay has been kinda towny

[Titus]

my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.

...

WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?

Not going to answer this for Moon, but I have suspected this myself.

[Moongrass]

One thing I do know is that the nom kill was intended to set up my mislim in the days following. I do not like Cyrus opening D2 with "this seems like a set up" and I do not like house bringing up nom's last post D1 to put gasoline on my wagon today.

[Moongrass]

my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.

...

WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?

So we start the game with two townstumps. They each get to pick a PR = 2 PRs.

[Titus]

I’ll say Titus’ posting toDay has been kinda towny

I have a break from my insanity. I'll be largely AFK from this game tomorrow (won't keep up with game speed). But tomorrow I should have more time as well.

[Titus]

my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.

...

WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?

So we start the game with two townstumps. They each get to pick a PR = 2 PRs.

That doesn't exclude us from having more PRs.

[cyrus62]

yep so theres your scum team moon and titus. both frail and push for easy lynch . hears a hint and warning to all n. im not afraid to self hammer

[Moongrass]

I assume it does because having 2 townstumps is a big boon already plus 2 added PRs seems hard to balance with 3 scum roles. But again, I'm not a mechanically strong player.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah
I thought there was something explicitly stating Jingle would create a setup around the stumps’ submissions but there isn’t

[Titus]

In Attorney Phoenix fashion, I actually just got a theory that we have exactly two PRs but the mods designed this game with horrible balance unless they included a lawyer or something like that.

[Gamma Emerald]

That was meant to be in response to Titus

[Titus]

@Gamma, do you want to hear my theory?

[cyrus62]

so if you push me to try to advance reads it wont work. and fyi i dont care if its anti town or not i have bleed town this game so lack of trust warrents a town lost.

[Titus]

If we suppose that Gamma, mastina, not mafia, and DGB are all clear, which they are under my theory (despite my mastina by read play is still hot garbage until I verify jjh).

That leaves us with me, cyrus, house, jjh, the hydra, and moongrass.

We miseliminate.
notmafia clears another name in the pool.
Scum kill DGB.

We're at 7 alive with 2 scum.
We have 4 names in the possible pool.
We miseliminate.
Scum kill Gamma (again sake of argument, any conftown besides not mafia works).
Not mafia clears another name in the pool.

We're at 5 alive with two scum.
2 names left in the pool.

Unless my math is off, I don't see how scum can win unless they have a secondary role that can bypass not mafia and I don't see that happening.

I think this game was just designed with crappy balance.

[cyrus62]

not advanceing my reads i havent pushed gramma mistina or nm in two days

[Titus]

Cyrus, how can town lose here?

[Titus]

If we suppose that Gamma, mastina, not mafia, and DGB are all clear, which they are under my theory (despite my mastina by read play is still hot garbage until I verify jjh).

That leaves us with me, cyrus, house, jjh, the hydra, and moongrass.

We miseliminate.
notmafia clears another name in the pool.
Scum kill DGB.

We're at 7 alive with 2 scum.
We have 4 names in the possible pool.
We miseliminate.
Scum kill Gamma (again sake of argument, any conftown besides not mafia works).
Not mafia clears another name in the pool.

We're at 5 alive with two scum.
2 names left in the pool.

Unless my math is off, I don't see how scum can win unless they have a secondary role that can bypass not mafia and I don't see that happening.

I think this game was just designed with crappy balance.

My math is bad. I shorted us a body lol.

[Titus]

Oh wait... there is one way we lose here. Crap.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma, do you want to hear my theory?

Hell yeah!
I’ve played all of AA 5 and 6 (minus 6’s special episode which I’m on the first investigation of) so I’m a sucker for a good Thought Route

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Music for the occasion