Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[jjh927]

NM could be a loyal combined doctor checker

Scum might conceivably have shot someone else

Something I haven't considered might have happened (likely option when you consider that nom was killed N1)

[jjh927]

Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point

[cyrus62]

my poe is titus jjh and moon.

Why is House not part of your PoE when he's been protecting me so hard?
Who should not mafia target tonight provided we lynch town and he is a weak hider?

house action on night one shows me he hoped off the wagon just as nsg askd some one to. you dont have that excuse.

[jjh927]

Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why

[Titus]

NM could be a loyal combined doctor checker

Scum might conceivably have shot someone else

Something I haven't considered might have happened (likely option when you consider that nom was killed N1)

Loyal combined doctor cop? Something like that. NM could be roleblocked and thus the stump wouldn't be confident on autowin. Second, that requires scum to have directly shot at mastina. mastina has done zilch and is afk probably partially for personal reasons even if she's scum. There's no way scum target mastina for a nightkill here.

[Titus]

Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point

Yes. House and Cyrus were both off the wagon at the end, never on at the same time either.

[Titus]

Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point

Yes. House and Cyrus were both off the wagon at the end, never on at the same time either.

According to the VCs anyway, they did both unvote at the same time in thread.

[Gamma Emerald]

my poe is titus jjh and moon.

Why is House not part of your PoE when he's been protecting me so hard?
Who should not mafia target tonight provided we lynch town and he is a weak hider?

house action on night one shows me he hoped off the wagon just as nsg askd some one to. you dont have that excuse.

What the fuck is this wording???

[jjh927]

Scum would target Mastina for a nightkill because Not Mafia said he would target her and scum had all the same reason you have right now to suspect he is a weak hider

[jjh927]

Weak hider combined doctor would be memes actually

[Titus]

Scum would target Mastina for a nightkill because Not Mafia said he would target her and scum had all the same reason you have right now to suspect he is a weak hider

The evidence for not mafia being a weak hider came only after the failed night kill. Not mafia being a cop or some other weak role maybe but hider specifically wouldn't happen until the nightkill failed.

[cyrus62]

Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why

i hate that slot i cant pin a read on it to save my life.

[jjh927]

He was saying who he was targeting

[Titus]

He was saying who he was targeting

Yes, but that foundation applies as much n1 as it did n2. If there was enough evidence to suspect notmafia of being a hider n2, it existed n1 and then the nom kill makes no sense. A gamma kill would have happened instead.

[jjh927]

Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why

i hate that slot i cant pin a read on it to save my life.

Shame

I was just thinking about how it's kinda strange you haven't had any substantial reads on anyone who wasn't elimable

[jjh927]

He was saying who he was targeting

Yes, but that foundation applies as much n1 as it did n2. If there was enough evidence to suspect notmafia of being a hider n2, it existed n1 and then the nom kill makes no sense. A gamma kill would have happened instead.

The nom kill makes no sense regardless of not mafia's role

[jjh927]

Other than to frame Moongrass

In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post

Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?

if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that

Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history

. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.

[jjh927]

Hey look at Cyrus' first post in day 2

so lets see who nonom was saying was scum.

[jjh927]

Honestly, I think the nom kill can be explained entirely by Cyrus being noobscum

[Gamma Emerald]

Other than to frame Moongrass

In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post

Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?

if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that

Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history

. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.

Wait
IT’S BEEN CLEAR SINCE D1 MOON IS AN ALT. WHY ARE WE USING THE BOLDED AS EVIDENCE?????

[jjh927]

Never mind he follows up with this

seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?

[Titus]

Never mind he follows up with this

seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?

He checks the thread temperature before doing so though.

[Titus]

Other than to frame Moongrass

In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post

Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?

if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that

Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history

. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.

Wait
IT’S BEEN CLEAR SINCE D1 MOON IS AN ALT. WHY ARE WE USING THE BOLDED AS EVIDENCE?????

We're not using it for the truth of the matter asserted but for its reaction on the scumteam.

[jjh927]

Never mind he follows up with this

seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?

He checks the thread temperature before doing so though.

And then puts Moon in his poe almost immediately anyway

[jjh927]

I'm just rereading the fake guilty from House on Cyrus and I feel it looks really bad for both parties