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[humaneatingmonkey]

it was an unfounded push with no real good reasoning that lead to the exposure of a TPR on D1. THAT is BAD in my book.

yes, that's what i thought you meant. but please elaborate. nomnomnom, Dwlee, Seanzie, T3, Kyuoku, and I all thought that boxxy was scummy, and we had very laid-out reasons for thinking sa much. But it was still convincing and nuanced. Why did you think we were wrong?

Of course, now in hindsight, boxxy is the only claimed investigative and it's probably wrong. But you didn't know that. You didn't know everybody else's role and you didn't know if one of us pushing him were PRs who had a good reason to doubt him. Still you were confident. Why?

[Almost50]

Like Bambi, I can read your town case on him but I'm not convinced by it at all and I think it just looks like he got caught trying to claim a power role.

@EVERYONE: If I had ever intended to fake TPR as SCUM I would have gone the safe route and given a CLEAR on someone. It's not that hard is it? Novice.. only have to give a result on D3, do have enough time to make sure that theoretical 1-shot Vig already used their shot too. EVERYONE GIVES ME A CLEAR would've been my cover.

But you know what Scum me would have REALLY claimed? Detective ENABLER. THAT would have justified my belief of boxxy's role even more, and would have prevented you from touching EITHER of us. I wouldn't even have had to retract it AT ALL.

But this is THEORY talk, because:

A) I am not Scum

and

B) I already fake claimed Psychologist, fake claimed 2 guilties and 1 clear, and retracted all that shit. DEAL WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION.

[Almost50]

T3 had a similar POV, but had reservations about boxxy as well. Almost50 clearly didn't have reservations about boxxy.

I am much more experienced than T3 is. I am also -moderately- good at Scum, so I know what Scum can or cannot fake. Roaming Detective was definitely NOT within the realm of roles that Scum could have faked on D1.

[Almost50]

So, instead of wasting my time on a "let's not eliminate a claimed PR today" kind of quarrel; I decided to take the shorter, easier, and quicker route.

[Almost50]

Why did you think we were wrong?

Because I'm obviously better than you all??

[Almost50]

You didn't know everybody else's role and you didn't know if one of us pushing him were PRs who had a good reason to doubt him. Still you were confident. Why?

I am also -moderately- good at Scum, so I know what Scum can or cannot fake. Roaming Detective was definitely NOT within the realm of roles that Scum could have faked on D1.

[Bambi Jay]

T3 had a similar POV, but had reservations about boxxy as well. Almost50 clearly didn't have reservations about boxxy.

I am much more experienced than T3 is. I am also -moderately- good at Scum, so I know what Scum can or cannot fake. Roaming Detective was definitely NOT within the realm of roles that Scum could have faked on D1.

Well unless your a natural liar like me or Almost. But betting the game that early isn't recommended.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Because I'm obviously better than you all??

Not what I'm looking for. I'm very very nearly convinced that you're town, A50. I just need you to tell us exactly what made you disagree about our case against boxxy (at the circumstance that they were occurring).

[Almost50]

@HEM: If you buy that I'm one of the top 3 fakeclaimers on this site (as either alignment) then you should take that into account for how I judge others claims.

[OutWorldER]

Official Vote Count 3.02

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elimination

With 9 votes in play it takes 5 to eliminate a player

MaxTheFox (3): humaneatingmonkey, boxxy, Almost50
Almost50 (2): Kerset, Dwlee99
T3 (1): MaxTheFox
Bambi Jay (1): Salsabil Faria
Kerset (1): T3
humaneatingmonkey (1): Bambi Jay

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-06-27 12:50:00).

Mod notes:

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[Almost50]

Because I'm obviously better than you all??

Not what I'm looking for. I'm very very nearly convinced that you're town, A50. I just need you to tell us exactly what made you disagree about our case against boxxy (at the circumstance that they were occurring).

You want me to go read the like what? 50% of the game to find why each of you voted boxxy and point out why it was bad? All i remember is I disliked nom's push on both Seanzie and boxxy, and they both came -iirc- after they pushed cyrus; whom I was SRing (obviousy) and then boxxy ALSO had YOU as a SR 9which was my reaction to your entrance) so I believed the push was to save a p (assumed you, nom & cyrus were the team) and thus concluded it was a bad push from the get go. The came the claim and I was furious, even with all considerations (that not all boxxy waonners are Scum) it still was a BAD PUSH.

I dunno how else to explain it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

That's all. Thank you.

Now, all that's left is MaxTheFox.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Bambi Jay, you have a lot of history with Almost50. Is A50's performance this game outside of his scumrange?

[Bambi Jay]

Well no, but it's town more often then not here I'm sure.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, Almost50, you have a lot of history with Bambi Jay. Is Bambi Jay's performance in this game outside of his scumrange?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Well no, but it's town more often then not here I'm sure.

What makes you think that even though it's still within his scumrange, it's more likely that it's a town game?

[Almost50]

Also, Almost50, you have a lot of history with Bambi Jay. Is Bambi Jay's performance in this game outside of his scumrange?

Depends on whether you're asking about Bambi precisely or "Bambi and her alts".

I think Bambi is out of her Scum!Range "by just about a little bit" here. I think Elsa Jay is a bit more cunning than Bambi (although Bambi is more evil) so if it was Elsa I would have said "no"

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think Bambi is out of her Scum!Range "by just about a little bit" here. I think Elsa Jay is a bit more cunning than Bambi (although Bambi is more evil) so if it was Elsa I would have said "no"

lol it's the same person. but what's the difference?

[Almost50]

You can't really understand it until you've met them both 9and hopefully not in the same game)

It's like.. I am the same guy as AP or Judge Joseph Dredd, but when playing under either I tend to be more "in-character", so I'm considerably less fluffy as HHD and much more "playful" as AP (Like I wouldn't be talking to you this much as AP, since there are "more attractive pheromones in the air")

[Bambi Jay]

Role-play and style Change is something I'm good at. His Alts you have to adjust his playstyle too.

For example While Bambi is more bold and prone to just curse and take charge, Elsa can whine more and be in the background. It's subtle but if you play with Elsa too you'll see the difference. We're both liars tho.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think Bambi is out of her Scum!Range "by just about a little bit" here.

So with that said, can you elaborate on why you think it's just about a little bit? What strikes as something Bambi wouldn't do as scum here by "just about a little bit"?

[Almost50]

Keeping me as a confident TR against everyone who tries to shade me or express doubt about me for instance. Bambi as Scum keeps a door open for a mislim opportunity

[humaneatingmonkey]

But it's just a little bit because?

[Bambi Jay]

Here's an example of Elsa btw, Monkey

id be happy with a lynch on flavor, dolly or elsa at this point

How could you betray me, anime?

I highly doubt you and Rb would ever get along.

You get along too well with me. He’s anti our style, Elsa.

Nobody understands us, Elsa.

Such cruel words, Flavor-San. You also put a target on my back if you compare our styles when we're appearantly the minority.

Well, I guess I'm more cute and lovable then you so I can survive, but still.

@Elsa - That’s your problem right there, you wear the target on your back.

I hold my target up proudly.

That's tiring on the arms though. Plus I like having my arms open for other stuff.

Also, I'll start serious posting when something actually serious happens.

She's a drama queen through and through, and way more moody and jokey.

[T3]

VOTE: max¬