Newbie 2067 - Pizza! - End!

[Save The Dragons]

i can't spam the thread too busy chasing cephrir's parents off of my property or spending time outside the game to hang out with friends on my weekends so i'm sorry i'm not posting

[cyrus62]

i can't spam the thread too busy chasing cephrir's parents off of my property or spending time outside the game to hang out with friends on my weekends so i'm sorry i'm not posting

Could you at least give some reads or let us know your poe at this point of time. I understand life issues. But as se's we owe it to the new guys to solve.

[Save The Dragons]

i think scum is in {Hockey, HC, Pav}

I think Zyla, Azeru, Luke, and you are town

[cyrus62]

So we agree on Hockeyfan..

[cyrus62]

Pav pings me as town. Can you show me how you read him as scum.

[cyrus62]

I want to say lukewarm is town but he is so tangeld up with HockeyFan i can't till.

[cyrus62]

and hc is null
T0 me I could see the rest as town.

[HockeyFan]

i think scum is in {Hockey, HC, Pav}

I think Zyla, Azeru, Luke, and you are town

Alright so heres the thing, SVD spent 766 defending themselves from my push on them(tbh I dont follow the logic on some of these points but thats a slight TL for me)

but after that post, he stars SR'ing and pushing me without giving me a good reason on why im scum(other than presumably I pushed them)

[Save The Dragons]

some of pav's content looks like content for the sake of content

268 doesn't actually say much it's a lot of null reads

914 is information instead of analysis which isn't inherently bad but i don't know if he really gave his analysis

[Save The Dragons]

but after that post, he stars SR'ing and pushing me without giving me a good reason on why im scum(other than presumably I pushed them)

yeah my read pretty much has to do with how you pushed me

[HockeyFan]

okay cool, so i wanna SL u for that, but your content on other ppl has been towny so back to null u go

[cyrus62]

Lol

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-3

Milwaukee style pizza is reminiscent of Sicilian foccacia pizza. The crust is thin, and although the pizza itself is not always rectangular, this style of pizza isn't cut into pie-shaped slices, but into rectangles.

Lukewarm

(2): Azeru, HockeyFan

Save The Dragons

(1): Pavowski

Not Voting

(5): cyrus62, HockeyFan, Azeru, Haschel Cedricson, Zyla

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 28, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-27 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Zyla]

Full Town Read:

Luke

Town Lead:

Azeru

HockeyFan

Null:

Pav

Scum Lean:

STD

HC

[Zyla]

... apparently that looks terrible in light mode (such as phones), sorry about that.


Just to note, I'll be away for the rest of the (IRL) day, see y'all later, and feel free to solve the game while I'm away

[Pavowski]

I think I am getting a bit more comfortable with my solve of STD + [Pav or HC].

In this version of events STD and I, as fellow mafia, are clumsy enough to be on the same wagon with plenty of time left on the clock on d1, and then out of the gate try to bus each other before there's any pressure on either of us on d2? Seriously, as of the time of you posting this AND me posting this morning, there are 3 votes on the board, and if I'm scum with STD, this theory alleges 2 of the 3 are scum bussing each other.

I mean, I could see sussing him or me, but putting us on a team together is a heck of a call.

In fact, it's the first thing Luke has done in this game that has pinged me as particularly scummy. And that's not an OMGUS, that is "I actually don't understand the logic that tells you STD and me could be teamed up."

some of pav's content looks like content for the sake of content

268 doesn't actually say much it's a lot of null reads

914 is information instead of analysis which isn't inherently bad but i don't know if he really gave his analysis

I mean, in 268 it was null reads because I was still forming early impressions of people with no actual intel to go off of. Then in 914 I posted the info I had compiled, as I thought it might be of interest to some of us, and *I* wanted to have it all in one place. I later elaborated on some views on those vote counts, but why not, I'll give you some updated reads.

Cyrus is as close to confirmed town as we're gonna get, for better or for worse.

Zyla could be mafia riding her vote and her reasons on Hockey to avoid the wagon on STD at end of day, or could be town not letting herself be swayed by her susses. I lean towards town.

Hockey's votes d1 confuse me a little but *feel* like genuine searching. He's been ever-present in the scum readings of a few people but still seems to be trying to figure things out, this reads town to me, but I am easily fooled.

Azeru has felt lurky to me for most of the game, but somehow I still get a town vibe. Maybe I need to re-examine that, but that's my impression. I am also trying to figure out what to make of his post asking about a full claim, though he exhorts us not to read anything into it. Like many of my reads of him, on paper it feels like I should read it as scummy, yet I still get a town feel.

Luke I continue to find impossible to read. He could be the towniest town or the scummiest scum, and neither would surprise me, because his posts are basically always measured and analytical and hard to argue with. I *hope* he's on our side, but -- see above -- his logic putting me on a team with STD escapes me and feels out of character, so I have to lean him into the scum side. Then again, Haschel seems to be his 2nd scum read, and I agree with that, so...

Haschel is another tough one, but he's currently my 2nd scum read, for reasons I gave following my vote analysis. To rehash, he seemed to push a Strange elimination without actually voting for it. Could be big-brain town, but I don't think so.

STD is my top scum read right now, and I've also given my reason for that. It's mostly tied to the voting I talked about, but the tenor of his posts have changed while he's been under some pressure as well, which makes me think the pressure may be on the right track.

TL;DR
Scum ->------------->- Town
STD > Haschel > Luke > Azeru = Hockey = Zyla > Cyrus

These ratings subject to change.

[Pavowski]

Gahh, I forgot to factor in Cyrus's check on Luke, which, while inconclusive, is a pretty good push towards town for Luke. So yeah, for me it'd be STD and Haschel if I had to call it right now, but who knows where it goes if one of them happened to flip town.

[cyrus62]

ok hockey who do you agree with or disagree with now that std zyla luke and pav have given reads.

[HockeyFan]

ok hockey who do you agree with or disagree with now that std zyla luke and pav have given reads.

Alright, so Luke's reads didnt ping me as scummy at all and my read on him from 915 hasnt changed much.

my thouhgts about STD's reads are in here 1035

as for zyla and pav's reads, I dont agree with HC being their top scum, i just dont see it lol, but tbf they both have STD as their SL(which can i get behind), so their reads for me are a solid null for me

[cyrus62]

I also gave my reads hc hasn't posted much so why don't you think he's scummy

[cyrus62]

well yes that Hammer was wrong. But I think everyone was pushing StrangeMatter at somepoimt yesterday but I guess I should say sorry StrangeMatter
Now I was doing some thinking
What if scum did no kill and received a letter from friendly neighbor. Scum wouldn't admit it and that would confirm one scum.

[HockeyFan]

I also gave my reads hc hasn't posted much so why don't you think he's scummy

I out lined some of his towny posts in 915. He also hasnt done anything extraordinarily scummy d2(hanst posted musch but still)

[cyrus62]

7 days 48 hours between Prods means he just has to post once every 45 hours ,= 4 times on day 2
So it's scummy not to post makes it hard to form reads

[Save The Dragons]

it would be nice to hear from haschel

[Pavowski]

7 days 48 hours between Prods means he just has to post once every 45 hours ,= 4 times on day 2
So it's scummy not to post makes it hard to form reads

it would be nice to hear from haschel

I agree, but let's don't forget Haschel had some extenuating circumstances in RL that may be making it difficult to post as much as he might do otherwise.