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[humaneatingmonkey]

[Almost50]

@monkey can you explain calmly and early why you had me essentially locked scum day1 and day 2

@boxxy

A. bad progression
A1. focusing on anti-town elims instead of scumreads (even though you make a fuss about "noise on scumhunting")
A2. calling me scum and pushing for my elimination for garbage posting and then giving me a townlean for more garbage posts
A3. recanting that you thought i was scum and were actually pushing for my elimination
A4. calling Seanzie dishonest (shading) and then voting nomnomnom for anti-town scumhunting methods
A5. voting nomnomnom for anti-town scumhunting methods (as she pushes for cyrus), instead of cyrus (who nomnomnom pushes) who you actually scumread

B. bad reaction to pressure
B1. dismisses my push by painting me as stupid
B2. claims an investigative role that vaguely gives any clearance to slots
B3. unable to explain what a detective is
B4. TMIs that I'm town in the statement "your trash play cost us the game"
B5. goes straight to AtE and basically gives up trying to solve the game
B6. dismisses my posts as "filler"

C. roleclaim
C1. still alive in N1
C2. checked Seanzie, his townread, but not nomnomnom or HEM or anyone else who he still suspected

D. mechanical
D1. flip will confirm Salsabil
D2. eliminate wifom
D3. gives a lot of associative reads

The reason why I slowed down today and I want to get an in-depth read of every slot is that there's a very good chance that you're still scum here and I want to have the freedom to eliminate you Day 4. But that means I have to nail scum today. I'm treating this day as MELO. I think I have 33% if not 66% chance of doing that with {Max The Fox, Almost50, and Bambi Jay}.

@Almost50 what of this case do you disagree with?

OUCH! A call for me to effort while watching a soccer game isn't cool, bro.

OK, let me see..

A. I didn't see any bad progression from you. I even agreed with your reads, and especially the one on HEM at the time. Since I ended up thinking the solve was cyrus/HEM/nom I wouldn't have seen your vote on Nom or your push on HEM as "alarming" AT ALL.

B. I didn't see "bad reaction to pressure" either. As I was TRing you already, and I was SRing your push targets I naturally thought you were doing some good work and agreed to your views and arguments in general. I pribably would have behaved the same if I was in your shoes.

ASLO (B) The claim came out naturally and felt genuine to me, and -as I said- I thought (and still do) Scum could not have faked that Role (and especially the Modifier). I don't even understand HEM's B2 because it is what it is. The Setup Designers decided to use that role, so what else could you have done?

Note: I also can see HEM's PoV now that I see he's likely Town. I mean, it was a wrong PoV but easily coming from a player who knows his own alignment and expected something that doesn't actually concur with this setup. Like, I've once been eliminated as a Simple FV by a Complex FV who thought the two could not have been included in the same setup, so he faked a guilty on me (actually faked having received Fruit from me) and Scum made the best of it to eliminate me on that day and eliminate him the next. Town players are usually stupid and tunneled (myself included)

C. Roleclaim: I disagree with the first part (still alive) because I can see Scum trying to eliminate someone they thought was more dangerous if they expected you to check the one that didn't do the kill. (In fact, it would probably have been my plan to keep you alive until you've cleared the scum that isn't doing the kills)

The second part I do agree with and have voiced that out at the time. I thought the check on Seanzie was a bad choice and I said I would have checked Nom myself.

D. Mechanically speaking; HEN's argument here make sense, but I'd say it was immature/preemptive (Listen.. English isn't my 1st language and I am preoccupied so.. what I mean is it "came too early". I would have felt better about it if it came after you have produced 2-3 results, because one result could have still hit the scum that didn't kill on N1 anywa so one result means shit)

[Salsabil Faria]

Ok, that's good ig,

Almost50

was strong scumread of mine from what I read last, let's see what happens. And thanks for understanding my situation, I'm very glad.

[T3]

Oh so you actually counted. Good on ya.

Salsa good cuz of Box result, Box is a PR, and I know I trust myself and since you want Max gone I'll trust her.

So scum in Monkey, Kerset, Dwlee.

Replace Kerset with T3 btw. I realize Kers is actually trying to solve.

"O' wise senpai of the lake. What is your wisdom?"

"T3 only shitposts when he's town"

"Oh."

[humaneatingmonkey]

this is so sad. fwiw almost50 is the slot i'd elim the last between the three.

[humaneatingmonkey]

but i'm so glad bambi jay scumclaimed

[T3]

but i'm so glad bambi jay scumclaimed

I'd vote hem tomorrow just for this tbh

[Bambi Jay]

You did not me. I hammered because I love him and it's what he'd want.

[Kerset]

poor a50 is still making wallposts unaware that his effects are futile

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont think it's futile. let him catch up

[Bambi Jay]

but i'm so glad bambi jay scumclaimed

I'd vote hem tomorrow just for this tbh

Don't be reasonable only when I say your evil. Sigh.

This game is weird. But I might as well go all in with the theme so far and make this the quickest mini in awhile.

[Salsabil Faria]

but i'm so glad bambi jay scumclaimed

For arguments sake, if

Almost50

flips town, then who are the scums?

[T3]

I was recently in a mini that ended after 20 pages in a town win.

[Almost50]

Oh so you actually counted. Good on ya.

Salsa good cuz of Box result, Box is a PR, and I know I trust myself and since you want Max gone I'll trust her.

So scum in Monkey, Kerset, Dwlee.

Fuck you for fucking me over once again. I should probably PL you as ANY of your accounts n every game to prevent this from happening ever again. I now look like an arse

[Almost50]

Oh so you actually counted. Good on ya.

Salsa good cuz of Box result, Box is a PR, and I know I trust myself and since you want Max gone I'll trust her.

So scum in Monkey, Kerset, Dwlee.

Fuck you for fucking me over once again. I should probably PL you as ANY of your accounts n every game to prevent this from happening ever again. I now look like an arse

[humaneatingmonkey]

For arguments sake, if Almost50 flips town, then who are the scums?

Bambi Jay, I'm sure about. MaxTheFox, less so but it's still a solid read.

[T3]

Bambi is an alt?

[Almost50]

This makes me think we are getting a red flip.

With all due respect, that's only because you're bad at this game and you have never improved an inch in 6 years (since we did play together in 2015 or 2016). Stick to Newbie games, my friend.

[Salsabil Faria]

For arguments sake, if Almost50 flips town, then who are the scums?

Bambi Jay, I'm sure about. MaxTheFox, less so but it's still a solid read.

Then you should go for her today??

[humaneatingmonkey]

Only I get to kill my friend, not you. It's what he would want.

Oh so you actually counted. Good on ya.

Salsa good cuz of Box result, Box is a PR, and I know I trust myself and since you want Max gone I'll trust her.

So scum in Monkey, Kerset, Dwlee.

Fuck you for fucking me over once again. I should probably PL you as ANY of your accounts n every game to prevent this from happening ever again. I now look like an arse

You did not me. I hammered because I love him and it's what he'd want.

[Bambi Jay]

Well uh. Love works in mysterious ways.

[Salsabil Faria]

@Almost50

, who are the scums?

[Almost50]

So scum in Monkey, Kerset, Dwlee.

and you kill monkey man?

You'll listen when Almost and probably Boxxy dies and we're left with jackshit.

If it ain't you read up on Dwlee and Max. My main target is Monkey.

@TOWN: ELIMINATE THIS TOMORROW. ELIMINATE THIS AND SALSABIL. THESE TWO ARE THE MOST CUNNING OF MY VOTERS.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Then you should go for her today??

I went for them today. She cut me short. Almost50 is hammered. I'll go for her tomorrow.

[Dwlee99]

This makes me think we are getting a red flip.

With all due respect, that's only because you're bad at this game and you have never improved an inch in 6 years (since we did play together in 2015 or 2016). Stick to Newbie games, my friend.

Jesus Christ dude, wtf?