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[Val89]

Something else can concerns me is the abrupt change between #711-712 and #713 onwards, in the space of 7 minutes and in response to no-one. I think it's fairly clear he is just throwing stuff out there and hoping something might stick, but if we are wrong about James, then continuing the attack on James would also serve his purpose, surely.

I think there are two things to consider: one, that he knows I've already said that Scum!Grandpa = Town!James, and if he is right about him getting hammered once Zyla comes along, and we see him flip red, continuing an attack on James makes little sense.

Second is the content that James and Grandpa were discussing: which is how he might be scum buddies with either me or T3. Grandpa has in general been rather concerned with finding out who certain people think he might be scum buddies with, if he theoretically flips red. The conversation with James has prompted posts like #704; Grandpa himself has said "person a - yes and ur partner is possibly t3; " in the proceeding post to his sudden change of heart on James. If Zyla is right about Grandpa writing stream-of-consciousness style, it occurs to me it's possible scum!Grandpa realises this is only drawing attention to his scumbuddy and immediately jumps into "Val is bad! Val is BAAAD!!"

I can see where the idea of a {Grandpa, Val} came from. Does anyone recall where the idea of {Grandpa, T3} was first floated, and why? I know we might well be getting into the realm of the pre-flip associative now, but to my recollection T3 was one of those "laid-backs", to borrow Grandpa' term, and hasn't given us all that much to read them with, yet alone to start partnering them off.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa is town for the reaction.

This feels silly, like
T3: Grandpa is town
Grandpa: Okay I changed my mind T3 is town now because they didn't hammer me also some meta
T3: Ok Grandpa is town even more

I agree with Grandpa's logic in the reaction, that not hammering at this point is something townie, but also, like, WIFOM at this point on anyone who was under suspicion who goes on to rush a hammer and doesn't, you know? And especially when you consider the meltdown that happened between Grandpa's reaction in 675 and T3's post in 742... I just don't follow the logic at all.

+1 another time where alstro says they agree wit me but continues to scumread me sad!

[T3]

Grandpa claiming vt only comes from towngrandpa.

[GrandpaMo]

Something else can concerns me is the abrupt change between #711-712 and #713 onwards, in the space of 7 minutes and in response to no-one. I think it's fairly clear he is just throwing stuff out there and hoping something might stick, but if we are wrong about James, then continuing the attack on James would also serve his purpose, surely.

no. i was just thinking how scum could have been you this whole time trying to pocket me for the vote on james but failed and then found this opportunity to quickly pivot onto me. just maybe a world where you + vfp could be scum.

I think there are two things to consider: one, that he knows I've already said that Scum!Grandpa = Town!James, and if he is right about him getting hammered once Zyla comes along, and we see him flip red, continuing an attack on James makes little sense.

i think we are tvt atp. this whole game has been a shit show me it -- me townreading someone to see how they react is the best play for me atp. i am doing a favor for town, to gain reactions from other ppl once i push a narrative that hasnt been pushed before, for example scum!you. after my flip as town, town can look back and see how well or bad you reacted in pressure from accumlated dissonance of my perspective.

Second is the content that James and Grandpa were discussing: which is how he might be scum buddies with either me or T3. Grandpa has in general been rather concerned with finding out who certain people think he might be scum buddies with, if he theoretically flips red. The conversation with James has prompted posts like #704; Grandpa himself has said "person a - yes and ur partner is possibly t3; " in the proceeding post to his sudden change of heart on James. If Zyla is right about Grandpa writing stream-of-consciousness style, it occurs to me it's possible scum!Grandpa realises this is only drawing attention to his scumbuddy and immediately jumps into "Val is bad! Val is BAAAD!!"

why do i do this as scum? just why? why would i do this scum when i already know im in a shit show and know im gettting hammered. heck i just got hammered, again why would i have done this?

I can see where the idea of a {Grandpa, Val} came from. Does anyone recall where the idea of {Grandpa, T3} was first floated, and why? I know we might well be getting into the realm of the pre-flip associative now, but to my recollection T3 was one of those "laid-backs", to borrow Grandpa' term, and hasn't given us all that much to read them with, yet alone to start partnering them off.

it was brought up because no one really found a read wit me and so just paired me with someone who hasnt talked a lot / gave no contribution for example, cook, or t3.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa claiming vt only comes from towngrandpa.

claim masons wit me atp

[GrandpaMo]

pls let me live t3. u are literally the only one who knows how i play lol

[GrandpaMo]

well its ok im hammered. so its too late. ig ur dying wit me now

[GrandpaMo]

I want to clarify, that I'm not meaning that to be rude, I'd just personally suggest rereading your posts a couple of times, maybe even check spelling and grammar, not because those are necessary, but because rereading might help make sure your logic sounds like it would make sense to other people

.... sorry for the run on sentence. I'm not the best at doing that while on my phone.

lol irony

I... I thought reading this thread on the way back home would be nice. Now I've just got a headache.

Grandpa, question for you. When you make posts, do you usually just write what you're thinking and hit send?

and u think thats scummy? cuz thats how i play as my town playstyle -- i like for town to listen to my thoughts // and gain negative or postiive reactions from them.

[alstroemerial]

damn i guess im hammered well gl town

Cook was already voting you so not yet

[GrandpaMo]

how can i get better without changing my playstyle:(

pedit: WHAT

[GrandpaMo]

damn i guess im hammered well gl town

Cook was already voting you so not yet

no??

cook never had voted me

[GrandpaMo]

fuck i just rememebred them scumreading me but never voting --

well thats embarrassing

[alstroemerial]

this is the real flailing scum

imagine if this post was referring to yourself

and realize how accurate that feels as well

VOTE: GrandpaMo

In my current solvestate, James or Mo goes today.

[Val89]

Cook said he was already voting for you in his post.

This sort of thing is starting to drift towards the level of trying to insult our intelligence.

[GrandpaMo]

this is the real flailing scum

imagine if this post was referring to yourself

and realize how accurate that feels as well

VOTE: GrandpaMo

In my current solvestate, James or Mo goes today.

yea dedass forgot bout that quote and me rambling to vote james wit me hence why i thought they never voted

[Val89]

They*, sorry.

[GrandpaMo]

Cook said he was already voting for you in his post.

This sort of thing is starting to drift towards the level of trying to insult our intelligence.

what?

[T3]

Townslip moment.

Now unvote.

[GrandpaMo]

im so confused ;-;

[GrandpaMo]

Townslip moment.

Now unvote.

how is that a townslip lol

[GrandpaMo]

i jsut forgot cook's vote

[alstroemerial]

+1 another time where alstro says they agree wit me but continues to scumread me sad!

I'm holding off the hammer because you're so 50/50, like sometimes I read your post and I'm like yeah!!! and sometimes I just

Can you tell I'm tired-posting? Articulation decreasing. Bed soon.

[Val89]

my vote might have already have been there

[alstroemerial]

and u think thats scummy? cuz thats how i play as my town playstyle -- i like for town to listen to my thoughts // and gain negative or postiive reactions from them.

Maybe not immediately "scummy" in my opinion but if it makes it more difficult for your teammates (i.e. other town) then it's probably worth refining a bit. You can share all your thoughts while just making sure to write in a way that is more coherent. Syntax and proofreading go a long way

[GrandpaMo]

my vote might have already have been there

what does that mean

that doesn't mean they knew there vote was there. dont take words out of context -- "might" was used there to imply an unknown thought.

i just assumed that it never cook had never voted me but only scumread me as tho why they might have said that "might" (scumreading someone can sometimes be mistanktly alligned wit voting)