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[Andresvmb]

it wouldn't change much honestly. Sometimes scum vote each other to distance and it's not like nom stuck to the wagon. Are you implying that nom isn't scum b/c he voted rathe for a hot minute? eh, I guess you could make that argument.

Well he didn't just vote, he also pushed others to hop onto the wagon which had the potential to form something bigger. Point taken on him not sticking with it though.

Kyouko's just a better vote here considering the wagon and the pt stuff happening in thread

So much has happened in this game I just can’t keep it all together.

I’ll just sheep {VFP, Rathe} until I can fully catch up.

UNVOTE:

[Andresvmb]

nom and nero are tvt.

VOTE: T3

I’ll place my vote here for now.

[Dwlee99]

Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.

lol was rereading that exchange for context and found this.

Also Nero Cain was right about nomnomnom (Vaxkiller’s predecessor). He pursued there super aggressively, and DW kept deflecting. Possibly something to look into as well.

I thought Nero's reasoning was bad and still do kind of. I think the scummy part of that interaction was more that nom wasn't really trying to sort there, not what Nero was saying at the time that I disagreed with that nom had an agenda to push me regardless of my reaction to him wanting me to vote Rathe. I said as much in my reaction to Nero ("Point taken on him not sticking with it though.")

[Andresvmb]

I think that whole exchange is key to solve the game to be quite honest. You’ll notice osuka comes in too and deflects away from nomnomnom. And I think it makes a lot of sense. Vaxkiller was a strong role for the Scum. That’s one worth defending. Nero was relentless, and the Scum were clearly pushing back and away. So yeah maybe someone give that whole argument a re-read see what you find.

[Andresvmb]

Nero can you pick a different person from your list to vote? Not feeling this one.

And you did the same thing.

[Andresvmb]

Nomnomnom is Town. If anybody tries to execute there, they’re Scum. Just so we’re clear.

I was also way off. Good thing I never claimed to be a good player.

Frankly I would execute myself just for this. Kind of embarrassing.

[Dwlee99]

I was about to quote that for you. We all make mistakes

[Andresvmb]

Okay so {VFP, Anya, Rathe} are like almost always Town here. I want to sheep them. And I do think Kyouko is likely Town after re-reading some of D1 - they were dangled as an alternative there to Scum a lot.

[Andresvmb]

I think I need to shut up, vote, and let this game happen.

[Dwlee99]

Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?

[Andresvmb]

Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?

Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.

[Andresvmb]

maybe osuka n nomnomnom r mafia i dont know about dwlee could be but not sure anymore

And with this accuracy, I think Rathe is worth listening to hahaha

[Titus]

I need to reset on this game when I get my mental health in order. I still think we had S v S wagons but I owe it to the game and myself to reset.

I still don't see why scum would target a neighbor claim with a jailkeeper unless they knew the claim was false. So I am still willing to vote in the neighbors as it stands.

[Andresvmb]

Huh. ssbm is very scummy but I'm hesitant to lim him because of the neighborhood. Also Dragon of the West and osuka are townreads from reading the past few pages.

T3 has the added advantage of having defended osuka too.

[Dwlee99]

Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?

Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.

I voted nom in the VFP 1v1 saga at least. Also swung the wagon to Osuka away from (who I think is town) Anya.

[VFP]

Yeah Dwlee is always town here.
Even on an Anya scum flip Dwlee should always be town.

Also scum don't shoot Cyrus with Dwlee scum.

[Andresvmb]

Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?

Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.

I voted nom in the VFP 1v1 saga at least. Also swung the wagon to Osuka away from (who I think is town) Anya.

Honestly? I have you in the POE. You sound like you should be treated as Town but in key slots you were talking up Town and pushing slightly away from Scum.

But yes I do remember you aggressively trying to move the wagon away from Anya which buys you some credibility. And since Anya was the CW to Scum, it’s possible that they’re just Town. I don’t think it’s a certainty, but surely Anya shouldn’t be pursued at this stage and Anya also gathered a lot of early votes when nom3 was getting pushed so that’s all fair.

I would probably execute {T3, Titus, STD} in some sort of order and hope to win, but I haven’t even read STD closely and they’re tough to read, and Nero also called them Town. Somebody give me some thoughts on DoTW at this stage that would also help.

[VFP]

Titus is most likely town.

[Andresvmb]

But again, I have way too much incomplete information about this game and with the information we have, a full re-read is warranted. I’m just a bit afraid of throwing my weight around because I just haven’t been that solid this game. Though I’m glad I read both peta and Nero correctly more than anything else.

[Dwlee99]

If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.

[Andresvmb]

Titus is most likely town.

So who do you think is Scum then? Outside of me of course since you’re voting me.

[Titus]

Titus is most likely town.

Why am I likely town given you believe anya was town and how vocally I pushed that wagon?

[Andresvmb]

If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.

They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.

[Titus]

If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.

They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.

That's why I suspected masons, which was my big reason for doubting the neighbor claim.

[Dwlee99]

If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.

They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.

I would also say "No I'm not a cop" if I was a cop.