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[Smoke and Mirrors]

votecount 1.execution

Gamma Emerald (0)
KittyTacky (4) - Distance, Smoke and Mirrors, Imaginality, Gamma Emerald
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (1) KittyTacky,
Cupcake Butterfly (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (0)
Flea The Magician (0)
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (1) Flea The Magician
imaginality (1) Cyrus62
marcistar (0)
Distance (1) Marcistar
VFP (2) Mistyx ; ssbm_Kyouko

not voting (5) - Everyone else
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KittyTacky has been executed ! They were...

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon !

Night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-06-23 02:14:45)

I think Kitty wagon was all town and Mastina was obviously right on Flea, so this game should probably not be too hard to solve.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I dont think flea would have doctored me if fae had won it so I'll just assume it was a setup of some kind

I thought Flea bid on cop?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Searching a replcament for Mistyx

kinda busy rn, but i'll edit it an EoD VC when i can, sorry for the trouble

[marcistar]

Why are scum going to lim their own when they can lim else where regardless if that player is going to get the chop?
There's no credit expected in those situations because as you said, they get caught soon.

It's also the fact Kitty had 4 votes to my 2.
So unless as I said me and Gamma are the last scum or both scum were already voting me (doubtful) there's no harm to move over and try to get the swap over.

TBH I THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE PLAYERS VOTING HIM FOR SOME REASON-

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

[Cupcake Butterfly]

While I'm at it I'll vote VFP. I feel like as the default candidate in a slow game working on plurality like this it's easy for as little as 1 scum to make town!Kitty go through easily.

I also like misty better than smoke/Imaginality at this point, and still am harboring suspicion about VFP's heal votes for MO early game.

VOTE: VFP

This puts him to 2, not sure what happens in a tie in plurality

You surmised a reality that Kitty was town, how does their scumflip affect your reads?

125+300 is 425. I think cyrus is here as scum to buy something for 425

I'm failing to see the leap of logic where Cyrus bids 425, did you mention it in a previous post?

Thanks for the unlock boss.

I enhanced 1-shot BP and the three 2-shots that were rolled. I did not enhance the 1-shot AD, was going to enhance that for tomorrow's auction

Were there any roles you weren't going to entertain boosting at all?

[cyrus62]

While I'm at it I'll vote VFP. I feel like as the default candidate in a slow game working on plurality like this it's easy for as little as 1 scum to make town!Kitty go through easily.

I also like misty better than smoke/Imaginality at this point, and still am harboring suspicion about VFP's heal votes for MO early game.

VOTE: VFP

This puts him to 2, not sure what happens in a tie in plurality

You surmised a reality that Kitty was town, how does their scumflip affect your reads?

125+300 is 425. I think cyrus is here as scum to buy something for 425

I'm failing to see the leap of logic where Cyrus bids 425, did you mention it in a previous post?

Thanks for the unlock boss.

I enhanced 1-shot BP and the three 2-shots that were rolled. I did not enhance the 1-shot AD, was going to enhance that for tomorrow's auction

Were there any roles you weren't going to entertain boosting at all?

i spent 125 on everything at the start of day one thinking i would at least make scum pay at least 126 on every thing and only 3 scum would have meant one would have two bet 126 twice. making it to where that one would have had less then 548 to bet with day2

[Cupcake Butterfly]

I think S&M hydra is probably confirmed town now right?

Elaborate, because I'm not following this.

Why are scum going to lim their own when they can lim else where regardless if that player is going to get the chop?
There's no credit expected in those situations because as you said, they get caught soon.

It's also the fact Kitty had 4 votes to my 2.
So unless as I said me and Gamma are the last scum or both scum were already voting me (doubtful) there's no harm to move over and try to get the swap over.

I agree, scum have no reason cannibalizing D1 when the heat could've easily diverted to 4 other players with votes: VFP, Cyrus, Imaginality, S&M. There must be

at least

2 town in this group since Kitty is the first scum.

So

{S&M/Distance/Imaginality/Gamma Emerald}

probably has 1 scum

at maximum

.

{Kyouko/Cyrus/VFP/Marci/Mastina/Misty}

to have at least 1 scum, and maybe both.

I'm not giving an opinion about Kyouko until they answer my inquiries.
Cyrus seems very open about his thought process but I can't really see much depth to his thought.
VFP surface-level is using PoE and deductive reasoning to hone in his focus, while also mirroring a faithful take on Kyouko's boost - did not care much for D1 play but I read Flea/VFP as the same alignment initially, and I'm sticking to that as town for the moment.
Hard to actually read Misty slot since a rep is coming.
Mastina is absent.
Marci is vague.

[mastina]

KittyTacky (4) - Distance, Smoke and Mirrors, Imaginality, Gamma Emerald

So I am treating y'all as conftown.

Beyond that, I am treating MistyX as town. (Flea would be here, too.)

Beyond that, I'm trusting enough in market owner ssbm to be town.

So from that, 6/11 town, including myself 7/11 town, which leaves 2 scum in 4 names: VFP, marcistar, cyrus, and Cupcake Butterfly.

If I had to take a blind guess of blind guesses, it'd be VFP + Cupcake Butterfly but I've got literally zero logic for this.

VOTE: VFP

HEAL: Smoke and Mirrors

[Cupcake Butterfly]

If I had to take a blind guess of blind guesses, it'd be VFP + Cupcake Butterfly but I've got literally zero logic for this.

VOTE: VFP

HEAL: Smoke and Mirrors

I believe MO is permanent once it has been decided D1 or?

You must've had an instinct to place Marci and Cyrus as town, if not a VFP/Me team. How?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

How am I not? I did the exact same thing in Happy Face. The only difference is that it was Pooky who realized that Bell was scum and convinced me, this time it was me who figured it out. (HINT: Mastina, for future paragon noms).

I’m not understanding the bird thing?

[cyrus62]

KittyTacky (4) - Distance, Smoke and Mirrors, Imaginality, Gamma Emerald

So I am treating y'all as conftown.

Beyond that, I am treating MistyX as town. (Flea would be here, too.)

Beyond that, I'm trusting enough in market owner ssbm to be town.

So from that, 6/11 town, including myself 7/11 town, which leaves 2 scum in 4 names: VFP, marcistar, cyrus, and Cupcake Butterfly.

If I had to take a blind guess of blind guesses, it'd be VFP + Cupcake Butterfly but I've got literally zero logic for this.

VOTE: VFP

HEAL: Smoke and Mirrors

day1 would kinda stink for scum wouldn't it? that means they have less then 1600 between them and 3 days to go damn.

[mastina]

went for cop, didn't get it

Yeah I put 200 on the cop and didn't get it.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I think S&M hydra is probably confirmed town now right?

Elaborate, because I'm not following this.

Why are scum going to lim their own when they can lim else where regardless if that player is going to get the chop?
There's no credit expected in those situations because as you said, they get caught soon.

It's also the fact Kitty had 4 votes to my 2.
So unless as I said me and Gamma are the last scum or both scum were already voting me (doubtful) there's no harm to move over and try to get the swap over.

I agree, scum have no reason cannibalizing D1 when the heat could've easily diverted to 4 other players with votes: VFP, Cyrus, Imaginality, S&M. There must be

at least

2 town in this group since Kitty is the first scum.

So

{S&M/Distance/Imaginality/Gamma Emerald}

probably has 1 scum

at maximum

.

{Kyouko/Cyrus/VFP/Marci/Mastina/Misty}

to have at least 1 scum, and maybe both.

I'm not giving an opinion about Kyouko until they answer my inquiries.
Cyrus seems very open about his thought process but I can't really see much depth to his thought.
VFP surface-level is using PoE and deductive reasoning to hone in his focus, while also mirroring a faithful take on Kyouko's boost - did not care much for D1 play but I read Flea/VFP as the same alignment initially, and I'm sticking to that as town for the moment.
Hard to actually read Misty slot since a rep is coming.
Mastina is absent.
Marci is vague.

Seriously what are you basing this on? Why do you think Kitty wagon can’t be all town? I’m not saying it’s impossible but why are you so confident it’s a bus?

[VFP]

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

How am I not? I did the exact same thing in Happy Face. The only difference is that it was Pooky who realized that Bell was scum and convinced me, this time it was me who figured it out. (HINT: Mastina, for future paragon noms).

I’m not understanding the bird thing?

I'm giving you a hint to my main, Nancy!

You know what, nevermind, I don't know why you would shade a partner so hard in 385 and 388 after an unexplained vote lmfao

I just don't understand why Kitty-scum fixates on you, but I can't illuminate that now. Should've been more active pre-plurality.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

I think S&M hydra is probably confirmed town now right?

Elaborate, because I'm not following this.

Why are scum going to lim their own when they can lim else where regardless if that player is going to get the chop?
There's no credit expected in those situations because as you said, they get caught soon.

It's also the fact Kitty had 4 votes to my 2.
So unless as I said me and Gamma are the last scum or both scum were already voting me (doubtful) there's no harm to move over and try to get the swap over.

I agree, scum have no reason cannibalizing D1 when the heat could've easily diverted to 4 other players with votes: VFP, Cyrus, Imaginality, S&M. There must be

at least

2 town in this group since Kitty is the first scum.

So

{S&M/Distance/Imaginality/Gamma Emerald}

probably has 1 scum

at maximum

.

{Kyouko/Cyrus/VFP/Marci/Mastina/Misty}

to have at least 1 scum, and maybe both.

I'm not giving an opinion about Kyouko until they answer my inquiries.
Cyrus seems very open about his thought process but I can't really see much depth to his thought.
VFP surface-level is using PoE and deductive reasoning to hone in his focus, while also mirroring a faithful take on Kyouko's boost - did not care much for D1 play but I read Flea/VFP as the same alignment initially, and I'm sticking to that as town for the moment.
Hard to actually read Misty slot since a rep is coming.
Mastina is absent.
Marci is vague.

Seriously what are you basing this on? Why do you think Kitty wagon can’t be all town? I’m not saying it’s impossible but why are you so confident it’s a bus?

I'm not confident there's a bus, I just don't want to throw it off the table since I'm still working on strongly articulated reasons to townread in the individuals on the wagon by themselves. But bussing is not a possibility I'm pursuing as I gamesolve in this game right now, just an afterthought.

[mastina]

(I am legit having a hard time getting into this game tho; it is undoubtedly the worst towngame I've had in a very very very long time. I genuinely wouldn't mind being voted out especially if there were an autowin or damn near close to one.)

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

I would seriously like to understand what you think I’ve said that wasn’t town indicative? Like normally I’d read something like this and think it absolutely has to come from town but you doubting me here makes no sense. What could I possibly have said that could have even remotely pinged you?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

We haven’t yet but why not?

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

I would seriously like to understand what you think I’ve said that wasn’t town indicative? Like normally I’d read something like this and think it absolutely has to come from town but you doubting me here makes no sense. What could I possibly have said that could have even remotely pinged you?

This post was before I read the thread (both pre-plurality D1 and D2 so far now), so I was just wanting to get your attention

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

How am I not? I did the exact same thing in Happy Face. The only difference is that it was Pooky who realized that Bell was scum and convinced me, this time it was me who figured it out. (HINT: Mastina, for future paragon noms).

I’m not understanding the bird thing?

I'm giving you a hint to my main, Nancy!

You know what, nevermind, I don't know why you would shade a partner so hard in 385 and 388 after an unexplained vote lmfao

I just don't understand why Kitty-scum fixates on you, but I can't illuminate that now. Should've been more active pre-plurality.

Only one comes to mind is Tweetie and you really don’t sound like her so idk. Kitty was making reads that made absolutely no sense based on completely surface nonsensical reasoning. Af first I seriously considered the possibility that he was just tstbs but when he popped back into the thread claiming to have time and still refused to answer any of my questions, I think it was beyond obvious.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Have more time now.

Nancy, guess my main.

Having issues reading into people here. VFP and Flea are town though and it would take a lot to convince me they are scum. Marci is decent too.

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

I get the idea that VFP/Flea are the same alignment but I'm not ready to call that town. Why are you comfortable saying so?

Also I don't think Kyouko or his voters have given me much passing thought, which does not instill confidence.

I am comfortable saying so because in my past games townies had a very similar tone and played similarly. Maybe this logic is flawed?

Kitty was basically claiming that he couldn’t make decent reads due to a lack of time and being busy then he still does nothing.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

[Smoke and Mirrors]

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

We haven’t yet but why not?

@VFP I’d really like to know why you think this is bad?