Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

House · Post Post #3975 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:30 pm

In post 3974, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3972, House wrote:
In post 3616, Moongrass wrote:House why'd you hammer cyrus early?
I also noticed that you never followed up on this question when I skipped it during my catch up.

It's almost like you didn't really care about the answer and only wanted to poke me with a stick.
I stopped caring what you thought when I was certain you're scum.

B/S.

It was a probative question that could have either been used to build a wagon on me or townclear me based on the interactions following it.

You just had no incentive to pursue it.

Moongrass · Post Post #3976 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:30 pm

Please do keep setting up these attempts to make me look like your buddy. It's mildly amusing.

House · Post Post #3977 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:31 pm

In post 3976, Moongrass wrote:Please do keep setting up these attempts to make me look like your buddy. It's mildly amusing.

Hi buddy.

VOTE: Moongrass

I'm gonna bus now. Okay?

Glad we had this talk.

Moongrass · Post Post #3978 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:32 pm

How polite of you to ask first

Titus · Post Post #3979 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:33 pm

Now we just need Maya and Gamma...

Which presents a problem because Maya townreads Moongrass now

House · Post Post #3980 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:34 pm

In post 3978, Moongrass wrote:How polite of you to ask first

COMPLETE lack of paranoia about having inaccurate reads and scum possibly being able to quick hammer noticed.

Moongrass · Post Post #3981 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:35 pm

Yeah it's not happening, any same person knows it's best for a town win to vote house first. He's my buddy right Titus? So you don't need to worry about Lylo tomorrow.

Moongrass · Post Post #3982 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:35 pm

Sane* damn you phone.

Moongrass · Post Post #3983 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:36 pm

In post 3980, House wrote:
In post 3978, Moongrass wrote:How polite of you to ask first
COMPLETE lack of paranoia about having inaccurate reads and scum possibly being able to quick hammer noticed.

Lmfao. Who are the two scum that are going to come quickhammer?

Titus · Post Post #3984 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:37 pm

I don't know if House or mastina is your buddy but I'm leaning mastina at the moment.

House · Post Post #3985 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:38 pm

In post 3983, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3980, House wrote:
In post 3978, Moongrass wrote:How polite of you to ask first
COMPLETE lack of paranoia about having inaccurate reads and scum possibly being able to quick hammer noticed.
Lmfao. Who are the two scum that are going to come quickhammer?

mastina, for one.

But you're safe because it's not like you're going to hammer yourself even if she does bus you.

Moongrass · Post Post #3986 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:38 pm

Hydra could still possibly be scum but the only people left are confirmed town so mathematically, it's impossible there's two scum outside my wagon.

Moongrass · Post Post #3987 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:39 pm

Well it's nice to see you both give up so soon.

House · Post Post #3988 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:39 pm

In post 3986, Moongrass wrote:Hydra could still possibly be scum but the only people left are confirmed town so mathematically, it's impossible there's two scum outside my wagon.

Now look who's not even reading the game.

Moongrass · Post Post #3989 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:41 pm

I've read. I've stated I believe both Gamma and mastina are confirmed town. Maybe you should get some glasses.

Titus · Post Post #3990 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:42 pm

In post 3989, Moongrass wrote:I've read. I've stated I believe both Gamma and mastina are confirmed town. Maybe you should get some glasses.

We literally just walked through that they aren't.

This is a convenient way to avoid sorting mastina.

Moongrass · Post Post #3991 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:45 pm

Yawn. Well this fun.

I bet you didn't realize it would be this hard to win today.

House · Post Post #3992 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:47 pm

In post 3989, Moongrass wrote:I've read. I've stated I believe both Gamma and mastina are confirmed town. Maybe you should get some glasses.

Titus JUST beat me over the head with facts proving that NM's results were subject to fuckery, and it was pretty widely known he was an investigative role on d2.

Roleblocking him on N2 provided a "clear" on mastina by preventing him from visiting her.

Your buddy lost her free pass.

Moongrass · Post Post #3993 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:48 pm

I townread mastina independently of the clear so I still believe she is town, and more than likely not, confirmed town.

Titus · Post Post #3994 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:48 pm

In post 3993, Moongrass wrote:I townread mastina independently of the clear so I still believe she is town, and more than likely not, confirmed town.

Confirmed town is a mech clear. She's not.

Why do you townread mastina independently of the "clear"?

ISO · Post Post #3995 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:52 pm

In post 3994, Titus wrote:
In post 3993, Moongrass wrote:I townread mastina independently of the clear so I still believe she is town, and more than likely not, confirmed town.
Confirmed town is a mech clear. She's not.

I literally am mechanically cleared.

Not_Mafia investigated me with a Weak Hider N2.

People have pointed out that there are scum roles that could block a hider hiding behind scum saving them, but literally every single role that could block a weak hider hiding behind scum from death runs into the same problem. And that problem is why I am conftown, because there is no way to explain the problem AND me not being conftown. You can only explain one, or the other, and if you explain me as being not-conftown you're left with the glaring problem.

Moongrass · Post Post #3996 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:53 pm

I just have the whole game, I had moments like with jjh where I doubted but they've pretty much seen the game from a similar perspective which usually means they're town too.

Titus · Post Post #3997 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:54 pm

In post 3995, mastina wrote:
In post 3994, Titus wrote:
In post 3993, Moongrass wrote:I townread mastina independently of the clear so I still believe she is town, and more than likely not, confirmed town.
Confirmed town is a mech clear. She's not.
I literally am mechanically cleared.

Not_Mafia investigated me with a Weak Hider N2.

People have pointed out that there are scum roles that could block a hider hiding behind scum saving them, but literally every single role that could block a weak hider hiding behind scum from death runs into the same problem. And that problem is why I am conftown, because there is no way to explain the problem AND me not being conftown. You can only explain one, or the other, and if you explain me as being not-conftown you're left with the glaring problem.

I don't see that at at all.

Not_Mafia crumbs visiting you.
Scum partner jailkeeps you.
Scum no kill.
Result: Fake clear on mastina.

ISO · Post Post #3998 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:56 pm

In post 3997, Titus wrote:Not_Mafia crumbs visiting you.
Scum partner jailkeeps you.
Scum no kill.
Result: Fake clear on mastina.

Doesn't work that way. Weak Hider dies if they hide behind scum; jailkeeper doesn't stop the hider visit.

If Not_Mafia hid behind scum and scum targeted that scum with a jailkeeper, Not_Mafia still dies.

Titus · Post Post #3999 (ISO) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:56 pm

In post 3998, mastina wrote:
In post 3997, Titus wrote:Not_Mafia crumbs visiting you.
Scum partner jailkeeps you.
Scum no kill.
Result: Fake clear on mastina.
Doesn't work that way. Weak Hider dies if they hide behind scum; jailkeeper doesn't stop the hider visit.

If Not_Mafia hid behind scum and scum targeted that scum with a jailkeeper, Not_Mafia still dies.

Jailkeeper does stop the hider visit. The mod literally confirmed this.