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[Smoke and Mirrors]

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

I really don’t understand this. I think it’s protown. We also unsuccessfully tried to get cop.

[mastina]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

To explain this, there exists only two possible worlds for Flea's death:
Flea was killed for faer reads;
Flea was not killed for faer reads.

In the former case, Flea's only read as far as I can tell was cyrus as scum. If Flea was killed for faer reads, this would necessitate cyrus being scum. However, for cyrus to make a kill on Flea for faer reads, when cyrus is fairly n00bscum, requires that cyrus's scumbuddy not disapprove of this tactic. The most likely player to not disapprove is VFP.

In the latter case, we subdivide into two worlds:
Flea was killed for scum suspecting Flea was one of the PRs bidden for during the day;
Flea was killed for scum fearing Flea as a town player, beit their skill in general or them being seen as town or something along these lines.

As it so happens, in both subdivided worlds I would expect the player to make this sort of kill to be the same person, Cupcake Butterfly.
I would expect the player most likely to back the kill off of that reason to be VFP.

Admittedly, this is after factoring in my prior deductions. Of the wagon on scum being all town, of ssbm being town, of MistyX being town. Meaning the pool is limited to 4 people from the getgo.

If MistyX flaked from the game overnight, it is possible for MistyX to be a missing-overnight scumbuddy, for instance, fitting into both the cyrus-scumbuddy world and the killed-for-threat-scumbuddy world. But I think her slot is town, soooo...

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

The cop bid may have been a reason but Kitty only had 4 reads and the 2 trs, one of them died.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

votecount 1.execution

Gamma Emerald (0)
KittyTacky (4) - Distance, Smoke and Mirrors, Imaginality, Gamma Emerald
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (1) KittyTacky,
Cupcake Butterfly (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (0)
Flea The Magician (0)
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (1) Flea The Magician
imaginality (1) Cyrus62
marcistar (0)
Distance (1) Marcistar
VFP (2) Mistyx ; ssbm_Kyouko

not voting (5) - Everyone else
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KittyTacky has been executed ! They were...

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon !

Night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-06-23 02:14:45)

VFP was probably next, so my theory is that Flea was killed to confirm him town but the bizarro votes/vote claims are the most sus. There is absolutely no evidence that VFP ever voted Kitty but he then botching a vote on Misty (no explanation nor attempt to fix it either) makes me think, VFP is very likely scum here.

If VFP flips scum, Kyuku is also likely town.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

To explain this, there exists only two possible worlds for Flea's death:
Flea was killed for faer reads;
Flea was not killed for faer reads.

In the former case, Flea's only read as far as I can tell was cyrus as scum. If Flea was killed for faer reads, this would necessitate cyrus being scum. However, for cyrus to make a kill on Flea for faer reads, when cyrus is fairly n00bscum, requires that cyrus's scumbuddy not disapprove of this tactic. The most likely player to not disapprove is VFP.

In the latter case, we subdivide into two worlds:
Flea was killed for scum suspecting Flea was one of the PRs bidden for during the day;
Flea was killed for scum fearing Flea as a town player, beit their skill in general or them being seen as town or something along these lines.

As it so happens, in both subdivided worlds I would expect the player to make this sort of kill to be the same person, Cupcake Butterfly.
I would expect the player most likely to back the kill off of that reason to be VFP.

Admittedly, this is after factoring in my prior deductions. Of the wagon on scum being all town, of ssbm being town, of MistyX being town. Meaning the pool is limited to 4 people from the getgo.

If MistyX flaked from the game overnight, it is possible for MistyX to be a missing-overnight scumbuddy, for instance, fitting into both the cyrus-scumbuddy world and the killed-for-threat-scumbuddy world. But I think her slot is town, soooo...

She also tr Distance and voted VFP, so don’t understand the replace out but if VFP is scum, I think both votes on them are probably town.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Kitty-VFP-Gamma has crossed my mind but what do you think about the defense of that here?

Unless the scum team is exactly me, Gamma, and Kitty, scum Gamma has no reason to stay on Kitty instead of moving over to me.

Why Gamma? You seriously think scum!Alisae enters a game blatantly trying to piss off most of the playerlist then reps out?

Since when is Alisae this terrible at scum?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

@CB, you having Gamma in your PoE really worries me because you are not a noob, so how could you not know that Alisae is not only decent at playing scum, e’s one of the few people who actually love playing it?

If it weren’t for that Misty vote, I might be inclined to think Flea kill was a frame up.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

UNVOTE:

for now. CB having Gamma in their Poe is really pinging.

[cyrus62]

Wow and I thought I was off the walls. I have 500 again can you guise why.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

So that leaves (removing Cyrus as I think town).

Mastina

Cupcake

Mistyx

marci

Let me re-ISO Marci because I didn’t recall getting scumpings from her.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Wow and I thought I was off the walls. I have 500 again can you guise why.

Your bid failed?

[Distance]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

OMG! I absolutely know who this is now. <3

EEEEEEEEEE!

is your enthusiasm AI because now I want to towbloc with you trshegawrfhrge

my two guesses were pooky and noraa then i realize pooky is in the hydra *whistling*

[Distance]

VOTE: vfp

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Marci’s a null for me rn.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

DON'T SAY YOUR GUESS NOW. JUST KNOW.

ALSO I'M TERRIBLE AT KEEPING THINGS HIDDEN HEHEHEHEHE

OMG! I absolutely know who this is now. <3

EEEEEEEEEE!

is your enthusiasm AI because now I want to towbloc with you trshegawrfhrge

my two guesses were pooky and noraa then i realize pooky is in the hydra *whistling*

He’s having internet issues which sucks for me because I’m not good at mech and he is,

[cyrus62]

Idk did you start with 500 yea
Didn't you say you bidder 125 on each item day1 wow looks like you lost on all 4.

[cyrus62]

Is the day kill for scum only?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Gylyx doesn't do a VC on a flip normally I think.

VOTE: MistyxVOTE:

I also don't think Marci is scum here.

This vote is bad - regardless if it’s real or fake and no explanation for it either.

VOTE: VFP

I also don’t understand why you’re telling people not to claim.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Idk did you start with 500 yea
Didn't you say you bidder 125 on each item day1 wow looks like you lost on all 4.

I didn’t say anything other than we lost on cop. Pooky bid only on cop.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

We haven’t yet but why not?

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

We haven’t yet but why not?

@VFP I’d really like to know why you think this is bad?

Having issues reading into people here. VFP and Flea are town though and it would take a lot to convince me they are scum. Marci is decent too.

Smoke and Distance are two of my SRs at this point in the game.

I can’t help but wonder if Flea was killed for bidding cop or to confirm VFP.

I just can’t help thinking there’s possible associatives between those two.

No one should be claiming what they did and didn't get.

I really don’t understand this. I think it’s protown. We also unsuccessfully tried to get cop.

Wow and I thought I was off the walls. I have 500 again can you guise why.

Your bid failed?

Gylyx doesn't do a VC on a flip normally I think.

VOTE: MistyxVOTE:

I also don't think Marci is scum here.

This vote is bad - regardless if it’s real or fake and no explanation for it either.

VOTE: VFP

I also don’t understand why you’re telling people not to claim.

Idk did you start with 500 yea
Didn't you say you bidder 125 on each item day1 wow looks like you lost on all 4.

I didn’t say anything other than we lost on cop. Pooky bid only on cop.

@cyrus, these were all of our posts regarding the bids, so I don’t understand what you’re talking about.

[marcistar]

Btw iso'ing Flea, unless the scumteam is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus not to pull such a n00bscum move, I'm thinking Flea was killed because the scumteam thought Flea was either a role or because the scumteam thought Flea was just that obvtown and were threatened by faer. (As far as I can tell, Flea gave suspicion to only cyrus and maybe imaginality. So the possibilities are; either cyrus is scum and killed Flea as the main threat to him and wasn't told to not do this by his scumbuddy, or Flea wasn't killed for faer reads, leaving the possibilities as "pr hunt" or "threat due to Flea being Flea".)

If it is cyrus + someone who wouldn't tell cyrus better, then the most likely option would be VFP (tho I suppose marcistar would be possible).

If it is someone who thought Flea was a threat in general and/or Flea was a PR, I'd say it's Cupcake Butterfly + VFP (tho I suppose marcistar's possible if marcistar has played with Flea before).

POE-wise that'd imply to me that VFP is scum regardless tho, so I guess back to here;
VOTE: VFP

Am open to other thoughts here tho.

ive never played with flea before im pretty sure
if i was scum vfp would be dead tho

i like the vfp vote
VOTE: vfp

[cyrus62]

VOTE: Vfp who knows what the flip would mean .

[Gamma Emerald]

I think S&M hydra is probably confirmed town now right?

I was actually curious if anyone has seen Nancy Drew bus before, wanted to take a look at that possibility (I think that was all the Nancy Drew head)

Pretty sure she has but bussing so early and so harshly seems like a bad play in a setup like this

[Gamma Emerald]

Nancy be town

also I'm a bird,

hint

ohohoho

[Gamma Emerald]

Elaborate, because I'm not following this.

S&M led the wagon on kitty pretty much
Need I say more?