micro 1017 is over party

[bugspray]

then why arent you voting me

[bugspray]

https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732

[skitter30]

VOTE: bugspray

[T3]

Naked votes, while generally terrible for information, are still generally NAI. In fact I'd argue, scum are more likely to make up a be excuse to apply a vote to avoid naked voting.

Looking at my own meta that actualy makes sense. Townpoints to toog for this.

[Retti]

I think my top 3 should not be executed today.

I didn't find their reason for changing their vote off of me to be compelling since I was guilty of similar play. My reads are fluid however, and it should be noted that I have no read basis for spots 4-6 since there isn't enough to work with as of now.

You weren't particularly similar, in my perception. Her posts pinged more. But regardless: why is me moving my vote from you to her suspect?

[Retti]

i unironically have some sr on datisi

Okay, why?

[Retti]

Naked votes, while generally terrible for information, are still generally NAI. In fact I'd argue, scum are more likely to make up a be excuse to apply a vote to avoid naked voting.

Looking at my own meta that actualy makes sense. Townpoints to toog for this.

Why does he get townpoints for a purely theory based statement?

Why did you dislike bugspray's naked voting if it's something you do yourself?

[T3]

Naked votes, while generally terrible for information, are still generally NAI. In fact I'd argue, scum are more likely to make up a be excuse to apply a vote to avoid naked voting.

Looking at my own meta that actualy makes sense. Townpoints to toog for this.

Why does he get townpoints for a purely theory based statement?

Why did you dislike bugspray's naked voting if it's something you do yourself?

I agreed with their train of thought. Toogs statement about scum not naked voting makes sense to me and I didn't realize before.

[T3]

Bringing up my current meta, I'm deciding to try and make my townplay mimic my scumplay in that I actually case people.

[Retti]

Okay, but why did you dislike bugspray's naked voting?

Why didn't the thought occur to you if it's something you do yourself?

[T3]

Okay, but why did you dislike bugspray's naked voting?

Why didn't the thought occur to you if it's something you do yourself?

I disliked it because it came without an explanation and it didn't advance the game.

Honestly the thought just didn't occur to me.

[Retti]

VOTE: T3

[Retti]

Felt like that was an attempt to join in on the suspicion on bugspray but the thought process here does not feel believable or organic.

[bugspray]

retti paranoid

[Rhyme and Reason]

But in all seriousness, what were you hoping for, (if you don't mind saying)?

Uh, well yeah I can say, since I feel like this is fine to get out in the open.

I myself was having a similar idea of massclaiming, for two reasons: (1) it makes sure that no info is lost since people's powers don't flip, and (2) most powers are one-shot so the power is distributed and scum can't take out all our power by focusing on a few PR's.

But, Mena ended up convincing me that a D2 massclaim is better, since schadd surely included a contingency for a massclaim, and since the potions owned by the person killed N1 hardly matter anyway. Saving massclaim until D2 allows investigatives to claim their info without fear of interference.

But anyway, if T3 had echoed any of these thoughts, it would have shown be was having similar concerns to me with respect to the unhelpful flips. Alas, it was just "herp derp I wonder if the setup is breakable"

-Reason

[Rhyme and Reason]

But anyway, if T3 had echoed any of these thoughts, it would have shown

he

was having similar concerns to me with respect to the unhelpful flips.

EBWOP

-Reason

[skitter30]

I didnt realize potions dont flip >.>

[Rhyme and Reason]

Read the setup-specific rules, folks. There aren't that many of them.

-Reason

[Rhyme and Reason]

I mean its weird but i'm not sure its enuf to call u scum over

Out of curiosity, what, if anything, do you think he's doing differently from what you'd expect from scum-him?

-Reason

[Rhyme and Reason]

Skitter, these posts are coming off to me like you are being delicate with your wording.

Good post (?)

-Reason

[Retti]

But in all seriousness, what were you hoping for, (if you don't mind saying)?

Uh, well yeah I can say, since I feel like this is fine to get out in the open.

I myself was having a similar idea of massclaiming, for two reasons: (1) it makes sure that no info is lost since people's powers don't flip, and (2) most powers are one-shot so the power is distributed and scum can't take out all our power by focusing on a few PR's.

But, Mena ended up convincing me that a D2 massclaim is better, since schadd surely included a contingency for a massclaim, and since the potions owned by the person killed N1 hardly matter anyway. Saving massclaim until D2 allows investigatives to claim their info without fear of interference.

But anyway, if T3 had echoed any of these thoughts, it would have shown be was having similar concerns to me with respect to the unhelpful flips. Alas, it was just "herp derp I wonder if the setup is breakable"

-Reason

Agree the answer from T3 was underwhelming. Understand the concern about the flips being unhelpful, but don't know that we need to full claim? Can just have everyone claim action results from the night prior. Don't necessarily need to reveal what other potions people may or may not have left.

I think I like that this is a discussion you're having, anyway.

[bugspray]

does anyone here like ketchiup?

[skitter30]

I mean its weird but i'm not sure its enuf to call u scum over

Out of curiosity, what, if anything, do you think he's doing differently from what you'd expect from scum-him?

-Reason

He tends to be like ~smoother~ as scum sort of

Also i really think bugspray is scum, can we get a wagon on them plz?

[Datisi]

okay bugspray is scum we're flipping them today

VOTE: bugspray

i'm getting strong flashbacks to both the first micro blitz and mbos 9, in both of which bugs was scum and i caught them fairly early on. bugs is clearly avoiding questions aimed at them about their "scumread" on me. god knows what their reasoning for voting rhyme and reason (haha) is, which i'm thinking that town!bugs would provide, especially considering their other scumread (me) started the push there. considering mine and skitt's paranoia there, that vote feels very opportunistic. and also their lolrandom posts that add nothing (201, 221) were abundant in those games.

also, what i was saying earlier about having Opinions - in a semi-recent scumgame of mine (micro 988: 09:12), where bugs was town, they similarly voted me on page 1 and claimed to have some sorta scumread on me. this is why i asked for them to elaborate on their vote; i didn't feel like my play was similar to that game's intro at all, but maybe bugs did see some brainworm moonlogic connection that i feel like i would be able to recognize if it was coming from town. instead, what is their response? there is none.

i think it's bc bugs knows that town!me is (1) able to get townread fairly easily and (2) has very strong precedent to sniffing out scum!bugs quickly so they're trying to discredit me while trying to go under the radar bc they know i would see their elaboration / responses as fake.

also also, i did a cursory skim through bugs's iso in the above game, and they had votes that they were explaining and they were advancing the game forward and all that townie stuff, which lead to them being obvtown fairly early on. they're not doing any of that here.

pedit: hi skitt

[skitter30]

Heya dats. Was thinking of mbos 9 too

I feel like they're ignoring questions asked of them and opting to not provide content, and dont really have reasons for the things they're doing, and iirc mbos9 correctly this is characteristic of their scumgame