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[Jake The Wolfie]

Egix is, in effect confirmed scum neighborizer by the KA vote.

Explain this.

Masons + neighborizer who neighborized ka and then votes him.

If Egix is a mason, then by definition they are town.

[Rannygazoo]

Let’s let Egix address this before anyone else votes T3.

[Rannygazoo]

I'm sorry KA, I thought you were lying, but as it turns out T3 was gambiting your life away.

What did you think KA was lying about?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Being a neighbor. I thought, given the plausible rolelist, neighbors were very unlikely.

[Rannygazoo]

My plan was that if we ran scum up scum would fakeclaim to draw out the real cop but there wouldn't be one.

Even if this worked, how did you see it ending for you on day 3 when no one claimed macho 2-shot cop?

[Titus]

Let’s let Egix address this before anyone else votes T3.

What can Egix say to address this short of claiming or refuting being a mason?

[Rannygazoo]

I don’t have any reason to believe that Egix is a mason, but KA claimed to have a neighbor. If there’s a town neighborizer, we should know by now. Egix feels like the missing piece.

If there’s a scum neighborizer, they may want to lay low after what happened with KA.

[Rannygazoo]

not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....

We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.

I think Roden is town.

Sigh yeah you're probably right.

VOTE: Kidamn

But if this vote flips town, I will not be happy.

I'm nothing special, apart from the fact I'm a neighbour with someone who should know better.

All you've done since your initial catch-up is responding to questions, so I really don't get the impression that you are being proactive here.

Have any of your thoughts changed since you did your catchup walls? I'm not really seeing any indication of that, and I find that concerning.

This progression stands out. Egix may want to say more about why he had high hopes for KA but then let them go.

[Rannygazoo]

Here’s a wall on why I don’t believe T3, courtesy of searching “cop” in his iso. No, I won’t spoiler it.

T3 would have us believe that he was trying to bait scum into claiming macho 2-shot cop, at which point T3 would reveal that it was all a ruse and there was (likely, for all he knows) no such role, or maybe a real cop will swoop in and clarify things. So let’s look at how T3 actually uses his fake claim:

Flipping me doesn't tell us the alignment of the cop.

Self-preservation.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball
What possible reason do I have as scum to draw deliberate attention to myself by claiming miller. Also, if/when said macho 2-shot cop claims or dies then I will effectively be confirmed as town.
Yes, mods can be anti town. But just ignoring setup spec doesn't work.

Self-preservation. It looks like he wanted someone to play along and give him town cred.

If he claims pr that's not macho cop hammer this.

(In reference to cw being ran up, and before he claimed). This is just… anti-town. However, I will give T3 credit because it looks like he’s trying to provoke a cop claim.

not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....

We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.

nice cop soft

This is also to T3’s credit, trying to provoke a cop claim from Egix, but boy is it weak.

I have a theory. Now I know the last time I said this we ended up limming the doctor but I have a theory.
All the other prs out today.
The cop claims vt,the outs tomorrow.

The next relevant thing is this, on day 3. This is the most damning thing IMO. At this moment, at the beginning of day 3 (and frankly, all of day 2 as well,) town!T3 NEEDS scum to take his bait, or else the gambit comes crashing down. Instead of demanding that the cop reveal, keeping town receptive to the possibility and making it a tempting choice for scum, he demands that

every other pr

claims, and asks that we kick the cop/T3 situation to the next day. This is the opposite of what someone should do, if their goal was to entrap scum as T3 said. This is what someone would do if their only goal is to stay in the game.

[Egix96]

Hey, I just remembered something.

not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....

We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.

Why this and then the reversal at the end of day 2 without even a comment?

Roden's posts improved after I voted him, KA was underwhelming, and I felt that T3 was town from having skimmed his iso the previous day (rl time).

[Egix96]

I'm vt.

Looking back on it that was a stupid gambit.

Well yeah, that's all you can say now.
But a real VT would have no reason to claim informed when they're not, especially when it could screw up setup spec.
Intent to vote T3.

[Roden]

Egix, we know you've read the thread. Please respond to the speculation around your role.

[Egix96]

Whenever I neighbour-ise someone, I find out whether they are strongman or not. It's why I made references to strongmen a couple times.
Jake is my new neighbour, and he is not a strongman.
I know I took a huge gamble regarding KA and it didn't pay off. If that gets me autoyeeted then I'm sorry.

[Egix96]

Egix, we know you've read the thread. Please respond to the speculation around your role.

You said that just when I was about to hit send

[Roden]

Whoops.

[Roden]

Jake hasn't mentioned anything about getting Neighborized though? Actually, he stated his role made a Neighborizer unlikely to begin with.

[Roden]

Who do you think is scum with T3?

[Egix96]

Jake hasn't mentioned anything about getting Neighborized though? Actually, he stated his role made a Neighborizer unlikely to begin with.

He is definitely in there though. There's just no day talk.
If you're referring to when Jake voted KA, then that was before I targeted him.
Other scum are probably in Goofball, Titus, and geraint, but I'm not super confident on that.

[Rannygazoo]

Skimming Jake’s iso, he is a lot more willing to believe in neighbors today. It checks out.

Why were you looking for strongmen in particular? If it’s a mechanical thing, please tell us the full name of your role.

[Roden]

Jake hasn't mentioned anything about getting Neighborized though? Actually, he stated his role made a Neighborizer unlikely to begin with.

He is definitely in there though. There's just no day talk.
If you're referring to when Jake voted KA, then that was before I targeted him.
Other scum are probably in Goofball, Titus, and geraint, but I'm not super confident on that.

But even with no day talk, KA knew he'd been Neighborized. Jake doesn't seem to know though, since I can only assume he would tell us if it had happened to him.

[Egix96]

Oh wait now I remembered he claimed informed miller. Never mind. I'm on crack.

Thonk.

[Egix96]

Skimming Jake’s iso, he is a lot more willing to believe in neighbors today. It checks out.

Why were you looking for strongmen in particular? If it’s a mechanical thing, please tell us the full name of your role.

Combined Neighborizer Strongman Finder

[Rannygazoo]

Interesting.

I'm nothing special, apart from the fact I'm a neighbour with someone who should know better.

I wonder what this meant. Did KA know he had been strongman checked? Did he think it was a mistake to neighborize him?

I’m going to wait a bit before voting, but I feel like I’ve gotten everything out of this day that I am going to. Unless Roden or Jake want to tell us stuff they’ve been teasing.

[VFP]

VOTE: T3

Thats E1.
I don't believe town T3 lies here and I've never seen it before.

[Rannygazoo]

Scum!T3 self-hammers here to cut off Jake and Roden, and scum!VFP sets it up for him.