Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[House]

@house find me a scum that isnt you or gamma and we'll consider the case

I've been complaining the entire game about mastina.

I put my concerns aside when she was "cleared", but her play had been unendingly frustrating when trying to consider it coming from a town perspective.

She's judging superficial actions as scummy/town without digging down to find scum intent, and I've only known her to do that as scum (but admittedly limited sample size + extended time away == unreliable as a statement of fact).

I've been howling for Moon's head on a platter forever.

What? This is nuts. So your #1 sr is Moon, yet are voting us and possibly sr Mastina? How does any of this make possible sense to you?

ISO me, because you've missed a lot.

Yes I see you’ve unvoted us and now think Moon/Mastina?

Roger that.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

(Realistically speaking here: I am not voting anyone other than Titus or House here today. Gamma is conftown and even were he not, this is Gamma's towngame anyway so he's not scum.

I don't see a world where both Moongrass and Mia+Maya Fey are scum; I don't see that as being the scumteam here.

So realistically, there is a MINIMUM of one scum in House+Titus. It's still

possible

for one of them to be town, which is why I haven't placed my vote down because IF one is town, I need to make sure I am voting the one that is scum. It's a moot point if both are scum, obv, but IF one is town I need to make sure I vote the one that is scum.)

Re: the bolded, glad to see that unlike House, Mastina’s actually reading the game.

Seriously.

You need to read the fucking game.

Last time I read the thread you were locked on a Moon/us team. Mastina understands how ridiculous that is.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

House, aside from Gamma scum, do you see a scenario where Moongrass is town?

It would pretty much require my lolscenario to be right.

I was townreading the Fey's, that never changed. They only entered my limpool via PoE. It was extremely frustrating to be at odds with my own logic, but I was writing it off to a bad read.

Then wtf did you vote us? My head is literally spinning now.

[House]

There is a slight non-zero possibility that the clears could potentially have been messed with

Wrong.

Hider procs before JK/roleblocker type roles.

As scum, it serves your win con to undermine town clears.

@Nancy start here and read on until you catch up.

Are you calling us scum here or not? I did say it was unlikely but possible and you know who else also did, jjh.

I was in that post.

Then things happened, and now I'm not.

You're scum reading me at least in part for my lack of progression on you... which makes sense, because I never did stop toenails you per se.

It's just that PoE made it impossible in my world for you to be town because I'm not used to playing with Hiders today can have results tinkered with.

When Jingle answered Titus, it flipped my table.

[House]

There is a slight non-zero possibility that the clears could potentially have been messed with

Wrong.

Hider procs before JK/roleblocker type roles.

As scum, it serves your win con to undermine town clears.

@Nancy start here and read on until you catch up.

Are you calling us scum here or not? I did say it was unlikely but possible and you know who else also did, jjh.

I was in that post.

Then things happened, and now I'm not.

You're scum reading me at least in part for my lack of progression on you... which makes sense, because I never did stop townreading you, per se.

It's just that PoE made it impossible in my world for you to be town because I'm not used to playing with Hiders today can have results tinkered with.

When Jingle answered Titus, it flipped my table.

Edit

[House]

There is a slight non-zero possibility that the clears could potentially have been messed with

Wrong.

Hider procs before JK/roleblocker type roles.

As scum, it serves your win con to undermine town clears.

@Nancy start here and read on until you catch up.

Are you calling us scum here or not? I did say it was unlikely but possible and you know who else also did, jjh.

I was in that post.

Then things happened, and now I'm not.

You're scum reading me at least in part for my lack of progression on you... which makes sense, because I never did stop townreading you, per se.

It's just that PoE made it impossible in my world for you to be town because I'm not used to playing with Hiders that can have results tinkered with.

When Jingle answered Titus, it flipped my table.

Edit

Damnit sorry. Edit 2

[Moongrass]

*shrug* earlier in the day it may have changed. So pointless point from me.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

i don't buy that house townread us than suddenly we're in poe without considering a misclear off the hider

Read 3935 again.

Actually pay attention instead of skimming.

dont care tbh

Then there's no reason for anyone else to care what

you

believe since you are actively choosing ignorance, tbh.

(Not talking to you, Nancy. I don't want you to think I'm confusing you two.)

Okay, is this somehow supposed to make me feel better?

Just clarifying that I was referring to koba and not mistaking his posts for yours.

Get out of your feels.

THEIR. Koba’s pronouns are they/their

So good on you for being able to tell us apart then. Pretty impressive since you couldn’t tell me and LLD apart but whatever.

Must be all that extra information you think I have.

When have you ever played with Koba? And you couldn’t freaking tell I wasn’t LLD despite playing with me in YGM?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

i don't buy that house townread us than suddenly we're in poe without considering a misclear off the hider

Read 3935 again.

Actually pay attention instead of skimming.

dont care tbh

Then there's no reason for anyone else to care what

you

believe since you are actively choosing ignorance, tbh.

(Not talking to you, Nancy. I don't want you to think I'm confusing you two.)

Okay, is this somehow supposed to make me feel better?

Just clarifying that I was referring to koba and not mistaking his posts for yours.

Get out of your feels.

THEIR. Koba’s pronouns are they/their

So good on you for being able to tell us apart then. Pretty impressive since you couldn’t tell me and LLD apart but whatever.

Must be all that extra information you think I have.

In all honesty however, you and LLD weren't exactly using two very different writing styles.

I'm a grammar hound, so little things like one person capitalizing and one not kinda sticks out.

It's not rocket surgery.

I don’t think we sound anything alike but whatever.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Mod: Can a hider be jailkept or roleblocked if such roles exist?

Explicitly the normal version of the role hider can be both Jailkept and roleblocked, and this is the version of the role used for Not_Mafia. I cannot confirm nor deny whether any variant hiders were used in the creation of the scumteam.

"The Normal version of the Hider is one of the simplest: the Hider, when they use their ability, cannot be killed by actions targeted at them; however, if their target dies as a result of an active killing action (e.g. a factional kill or Vigilante shot), the Hider will also die."

No actions other than killing actions fail against the normal version of hider.

UNVOTE:

I’m going to sleep on this.

[Titus]

I can't sleep. Ffs can you two not fight about things that don't matter.

Fight about moongrass.
Fight about mastina.
Fight about gamma (for some reason koba thinks he might be scum).

Maybe we can get somewhere then. Nitpicking at each other won't help and will create spite scumreads.

[Moongrass]

So you townread House Titus?

[House]

i don't buy that house townread us than suddenly we're in poe without considering a misclear off the hider

Read 3935 again.

Actually pay attention instead of skimming.

dont care tbh

Then there's no reason for anyone else to care what

you

believe since you are actively choosing ignorance, tbh.

(Not talking to you, Nancy. I don't want you to think I'm confusing you two.)

Okay, is this somehow supposed to make me feel better?

Just clarifying that I was referring to koba and not mistaking his posts for yours.

Get out of your feels.

THEIR. Koba’s pronouns are they/their

So good on you for being able to tell us apart then. Pretty impressive since you couldn’t tell me and LLD apart but whatever.

Must be all that extra information you think I have.

When have you ever played with Koba? And you couldn’t freaking tell I wasn’t LLD despite playing with me in YGM?

I can't find it now, but somewhere koba mentioned they'd be the one posting without capitalization.

Before that point, I honestly had no clue which of you were posting.

[Titus]

So you townread House Titus?

Mostly yes for his recent stuff. He's not locktown to me, and like I said, I would compromise on him.

There's

Me
Gamma
Hydra



House


mastina




You

[House]

I can't sleep. Ffs can you two not fight about things that don't matter.

Fight about moongrass.
Fight about mastina.
Fight about gamma (for some reason koba thinks he might be scum).

Maybe we can get somewhere then. Nitpicking at each other won't help and will create spite scumreads.

I feel like there might be potential in this interaction with Mia.

Her questioning feels genuine, and I'm optimistic that she's open to reconsider her read of me as long as I respond honestly about where I'm coming from.

I'm not looking for a slap fight. I promise.

[Moongrass]

So I'm lockscum?

[Titus]

So I'm lockscum?

Yes. I have only said it like 50 times.

[Moongrass]

Okay.

VOTE: House

[Moongrass]

If one of the stumps could please bow out before we lim today that doc shot would be really helpful in {gamma, mastina}

[House]

If one of the stumps could please bow out before we lim today that doc shot would be really helpful in {gamma, mastina}

Where did you get information on what the remaining stump gets when one bows out?

[Moongrass]

Get your glasses out.

[House]

If one of the stumps could please bow out before we lim today that doc shot would be really helpful in {gamma, mastina}

Also, good job agreeing with me about a stump needing to bow out today.

[House]

Get your glasses out.

That's an evasion, not an answer.

[Moongrass]

Whatevs. I'm done with today, there's nothing to discuss from my end so. Glgl town.

[Moongrass]

Me retiring is pointless too as it would have just given the dead weak hider a doctor shot.

Oh it was for the Hider only.