Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[Alisae]

This is why Alisae is annoying as balls and i’m pretty sure we just lose if we can’t kill them now.

kekw

[Looker]

because alisae's not a good player

Cycle Men was lynched Day 1. They were a Mafia Goon.

[Green Crayons]

Life lessons this game:

- I couldn’t read Deimos and thank you FB for sticking to it.

- FB felt weird once Norwegian was lynched and I thought he was trying for a long term gambit, hence my hope for a quick win. Whoops.

- I couldn’t read Elements so the only reason why I was super convinced he was town was scum D1 treatment, which underscores my pet theory that D1 is the single most important day in the game

- hat tip to Norwegian for suckering me into the votato lynch. Also hat tip to four(?) ppl scumreading him yet surviving for several days.

- I think I ultimately dislike nightless setup. I think it’s unfair to scum, as day talk is no substitute for a NK. Plus the threat of a NK adds layers to gameplay not only in NK analysis, but also in how town will act (to attract or detract NK attention).

- I don’t understand Isis’s initial gambit, so am curious what the thinking was behind that.

- HEM, please never ever pull a “if I’m wrong you can totally lynch me guys” tactic again. That phrasing/tactic didn’t originate with you but you don’t need to propagate it. It’s frustrating to have to waffle on whether it’s town bluster or scum trying to mask their mislyches.

- ABR why were you no fun this game?

[Isis]

I was hoping to make at least one person laughter and I made Deimos laughter so it was a good gambit

it also kind of ended RVS super quickly and stuff?

Nightless is in fact very hard for scum. I think setups with one or two nightkills per game might need to see more daylight, though. In theory you can set the player counter to whatever scumsided EV will counteract the advantages that nightless gives the town; this setup has much more unforgiving EV than something like a closed normal.

As agonizing as it's been for me to roll scum in nightless in the past, getting suspected by an obvtown player I could not remove from the game seems like it will never be as frustrating as getting investigated as scum, so, that's something I think about and maybe it's a lesser of evils.

[Firebringer]

FB felt weird once Norwegian was lynched and I thought he was trying for a long term gambit,

i was going stir crazy from not having flips. I should have prolly listened to Isis and ignored the thread more.

[Looker]

Nightless is kind of unfair

Spoiler:

[Isis]

It was a good take

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR why were you no fun this game?

Not much to go on day 1 and you lynched me day 2

[Isis]