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[Dwlee99]

Will you know if you do

[VFP]

at this game

So what about the past when you have tried as town?

[T3]

Will you know if you do

Yes.

[Dwlee99]

Is your role confirmable

[T3]

Is your role confirmable

Possibly.

[Dwlee99]

Do you have any cool results to share?

[T3]

Do you have any cool results to share?

No.

[Save The Dragons]

at this game

So what about the past when you have tried as town?

i'm not saying i don't try as town, i mostly try in games

i've just been behind a lot in this one and it's hard for me to follow.

i'm saying if i were scum i'd feel guilty about leaving my partners in the lurch by my lurking and i would try to pop in more to put more effort.

after petapan and dwlee and dgb and nero and others talked so much about claiming or not claiming my eyes glazed over and i decided not to try as hard this game because it was hard to read from the beginning

but i have some time right now so i'll try to put in something and read some isos if i can

[Dwlee99]

T3 I think I just want to hear your claim pending anyone offering an objection to it. Don't want a guilty claim coming out in ELO

[T3]

There are likely 2 mafia left 12 players. No point in me claiming it now. What I will ssy is that I crumbed it and it is 1 shot.

[Dwlee99]

Well I'm glad you're only saying this now that the jail keeper flipped

[Save The Dragons]

osuka is town.

I don’t trust that you can make this statement with any sort of reasonable degree of certainty this early. You’re not Scum again are you?

hmm. does he say this about his scum partner

both T3 and DW are calling Rathe scum but didn't vote him. You did and you want to see if they would vote there. In your mind, this accomplishes what?

Nero not going to lie - nom cubed seems like Town to me. I think you’re arguing the wrong thing. Getting reactions and stances is valuable. Scum also love to get involved from the sidelines in heated debates, but stay above the fray as much as possible, especially if it’s between two Town.

early town read of scum, i had nom as town too so

VOTE: osuka

here's where he votes osuka but doesn't really give a reason?

@VFP I actually think you’re Town here - talk to me about osuka.

interesting but i don't really see much in the way of talking back and forth again not much reasoning from Andres as to why they're voting osuka

Nomnomnom is Town. If anybody tries to execute there, they’re Scum. Just so we’re clear.

this is weird because VFP goes off the handle and Andres is townreading them. Hmm. I don't know if scum defends scum this much...

@Osuka I think you’re Town and I trust your accuracy. What are you looking to do?

wtf that's different

ok i'm bored.

Andres, your reads shift around a lot, i'd love to know your current thoughts on the game. i think i'm changing my mind about you.

UNVOTE:

let me look at some other people

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: titus

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: titus

You want to know what the biggest giveaway is that osuka is not my Scum Partner? Forget my vote without much reasoning (I’ll be honest, I didn’t want to get into a pissing match with osuka, but the style of their posting didn’t change between them being Scum in the two games that we played where they were Scum). Look at osuka’s reaction to my vote, and then to Rathe’s vote. It’s clear that they didn’t want me to cast a light onto them, and thought that they could convince me not only to change my mind but drag Rathe with me. I think you can imagine how that would have played out if it was a distancing vote. But a careful Town would look for those things. You saying that you think gut is enough to justify thinking I’m Scum here for example didn’t seem right. You’re obviously moving now, but I think you should have looked through the exchange and not just my vote.

[Andresvmb]

This nonsense from T3 is the least Towny claim I have ever seen.

I think we shouldn’t give any room for garbage like that to pollute our read of the slot. Either claim appropriately or die.

[Andresvmb]

My reasoning is simple. The Jailkeeper is dead. If the Scum are going to target you based on “I have a role that might catch Scum, is powerful, but is not confirmable”, then they just will. It’s much better for us to actually know what we have now that this information is available, and be able to comment on it. There’s enough crumbs there that it doesn’t leave that many options, and I think the Town deserves to know.

[Andresvmb]

And if any of you are going to attack me for role fishing or some other nonsense, then bite me. They offered up to claim to weaken momentum against them, and have decided to do it in such an absurd way that to me it just seems like they’re trying to buy time with bullshit.

[Save The Dragons]

mm you still might be scum

[Titus]

This nonsense from T3 is the least Towny claim I have ever seen.

I think we shouldn’t give any room for garbage like that to pollute our read of the slot. Either claim appropriately or die.

I think I know what T3 is doing and I'm inclined to let the claim go for now. I'd explain more but I can't.

[Anya]

how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

[Dwlee99]

After a game where I scumread someone and they got away with just softing a power role I'm going to agree I want more details

[DrippingGoofball]

how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU

[T3]

how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU

[Titus]

how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU

+1

[Dwlee99]

Not to completely speak for Anya here but "2-shot announcing voyeur that got blocked two nights" is a lot more straightforward and clear than "my role is good if it targets mafia so don't kill me"