MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[MURDERCAT]

I'm not claiming unless there is intent, one of the votes on me is pure RVS ffs

People really find this townie?

You didn't respond to me disproving your whole theory by the way

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #7

Flea The Magician (1): WhemeStar (189)
Xlos (2): DrippingGoofball (74), Titus (100)
Almost50 (1): MURDERCAT (126)
Jake The Wolfie (1): Jake The Wolfie (14)
Galron (1): Xlos (31)
T3 (1): Galron (81)
Titus (0):
WhemeStar (0):

MURDERCAT (5) (F-2): Flea The Magician (33), theslimer3 (187), Almost50 (128), nomnomnom (144), Toogeloo (173)

nomnomnom (0):

Not Voting (1): T3 (211)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Saturday, July 10, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-10 21:45:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Monday, June 28, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-06-28 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.

3: Thesp's vote counter is really picky. While I said I'd allow abbreviations, it would be very helpful if you try to conform to the spelling of the player's username as much as possible. Case matters as well.

If anyone knows how to do nicknames with Thesp's counter, please let me know. (I much prefer MathBlade's tool in terms of accuracy, but it isn't hosted online like Thesp's.)

Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
2: Flea The Magician : Fae/faer
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: theslimer3 : They/them
8: T3 : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
11: MURDERCAT : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them
13: nomnomnom : He/him

[MURDERCAT]

Day 1 has a minimum deadline of three (3) days.

I'd also like to point out that you literally can't hammer me

[Titus]

I'd like to take credit for that.

[T3]

Day 1 has a minimum deadline of three (3) days.

I'd also like to point out that you literally can't hammer me

I forgot about that.

[nomnomnom]

wait that's a rule lol

[Jake The Wolfie]

MurderKitty, I'd like to sell you some Future Death. At some point in the future, you will die. Not now, obviously, but sometime in the future, probably 2 or so days, you will die.

[Galron]

Fuck

I accidentally lolhammered a scumreadin my first game.. now this

How is that a lolohammer?

[Galron]

@T3: I don't see how you "accidentally" hammered when you had a P-edit suggesting you did see that MC was @E-1

[Galron]

Fuck

I accidentally lolhammered a scumreadin my first game.. now this

How is that a lolohammer?

@T3: I don't see how you "accidentally" hammered when you had a P-edit suggesting you did see that MC was @E-1

That's fishy as hell.

[MURDERCAT]

MC was hammered. I just pmed the mod. They forgot my vote.

Did you have a post deleted Titus? Or why did you think you were voting me?

[Titus]

MC was hammered. I just pmed the mod. They forgot my vote.

Did you have a post deleted Titus? Or why did you think you were voting me?

Not sure. I think I am in too many games.

[MURDERCAT]

Gotcha

[Almost50]

You didn't respond to me disproving your whole theory by the way

I will let others decide if you did

[MURDERCAT]

If you want to argue against the rule; do a research on your own games and come back to me with something like "Well, here are my last 7 games and scum posted in the 1st 3 in only 2 of them"

You say this, I do it, and now you don't want to engage about it?

[Jake The Wolfie]

A50, is your hypothesis that the 1st 3 posters contain exactly, or at least 1 scum?

[Almost50]

If you want to argue against the rule; do a research on your own games and come back to me with something like "Well, here are my last 7 games and scum posted in the 1st 3 in only 2 of them"

You say this, I do it, and now you don't want to engage about it?

I did say this, yes.. but did you do it?? You handpicked some examples. That's what you did. You're not even a player in the bottom 2 games (I only checked top and bottom and when I didn't find your name in the latter I checked the one above it),

So, what basis did you even have for picking those precise games?

[Almost50]

A50, is your hypothesis that the 1st 3 posters contain exactly, or at least 1 scum?

Exactly is much more likely in a 13-players list. 2 becomes slightly more probable in larges (and especially so in Multi-Ball)

[MURDERCAT]

I went to the completed open games page and opened all of them on the first page and took every game with 13 players with 3 mafia.
There were a couple that had to be removed for e.g. being abandoned and not easily being able to tell who the scum are but other than that there was no cherry picking at all.

[Xlos]

Wait... we're suspecting MC because of what, again?

Currently: Bad reaction to my initial push on him. ... MC used my mistake (of counting the Co-mod in my 3 first posters list) and voted me for it.

Ok, sure, you have some empirical evidence that it's one of the first 3 posters, and then pick the only one of the three that's not lurking. And then somehow this becomes a ridiculous bandwagon. I mean maybe this shaky evidence can take you some ways, but this is kinda ridiculous. I have to
VOTE: T3 for sending in what he thought was a hammer vote 'accidentally', though.

[MURDERCAT]

you have some empirical evidence that it's one of the first 3 posters

Please see where I spend a page disproving the entire concept that this is meaningful

[Almost50]

I went to the completed open games page and opened all of them on the first page and took every game with 13 players with 3 mafia.
There were a couple that had to be removed for e.g. being abandoned and not easily being able to tell who the scum are but other than that there was no cherry picking at all.

All cool and dandy, but:

A) Why the OPEN games? This isn't an Open. (I ask because you did exclude non-13-players games, so you must've been trying to do me one better by providing the stats for identical or semi-identical games. No?)

B) Your sample does not include a single game from 2021 it seems. I don't recall having stated that this was a rule back in 2015 or 2017. I'd accept the games from 2019 on, but older games are voided IMHO.

Now let's try again..

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=84282 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83417 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83235 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83553 (0)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=82564 (0)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=82037 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=81655 (2)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=81049 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78009 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78448 (1)

Do the math for THIS sample.

[MURDERCAT]

Why the OPEN games?

Because it's very easy for me to figure out the number of mafia

[MURDERCAT]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=84282 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83417 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83235 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83553 (0)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=82564 (0)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=82037 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=81655 (2)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=81049 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78009 (1)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78448 (1)

You should look more closely, all of these games were included.

Do you all really think this is a good faith effort to engage with me??

[MURDERCAT]

Ah I see, you are the one that is just cherry picking off my list now