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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:45 pm

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In post 1073, alstroemerial wrote:
In post 1022, JamesTheNames wrote:^ Actually I'll tell you how I feel regarding Cook regardless of what T3 may or may not explain, even though I dislike how little input we get from Cook I don't think Cook is scum, there isn't a world Cook kills Zyla, I don't think.
Who do you think is a likely scum partner for T3 if not Cook? Do you think GrandpaMo and T3 is a possible team?
In post 1018, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What's everyone's read on Cook?
I've been SL or SR-ing Cook for almost the whole game and Cook hasn't done anything to make me change my mind.
In post 1029, JamesTheNames wrote:^ This does indeed mean I think Val89 is actually the most town currently.
Did Val do something particularly towny that made you change your mind, or is Val towny more by PoE based on the association reads? Just comparing to back here
In post 337, JamesTheNames wrote:
If I had to say at gun point, probably Val89 or TF3, considering the really unnatural pocketing you did, it also doesn't have to be for reasons of: "let me pocket you so we can hammer James". It could just be used for later on. Regarding you're , surely the opposite is true also? Just because they agree with you doesn't make them town, even more reason which you've provided yourself as to how nonsense your early town cred giving to Val89 was.
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In post 493, GrandpaMo wrote:you also pivoted ur vote from val to me. and this would have implied that you thought i was scummier. but still are bringing up the narrative that i could be scum wit val? so why pivot in the first place if there was a liable chance that i was scum wit val?
I thought you were scummier. Would you not vote somebody you thought was scummier than someone else?
All being said though I do find your 1-6 point argument really compelling.

In terms of T3's post regarding the "circumstances" of the read on Cook, 6 minutes before claiming Cook was town, T3 said he was going to reread Cook's ISO. So, I'd presume he found something in there to change his mind...? But the ISO does nothing for me, especially with Cook's wagon hopping action.
I hope you don't mind me responding to only one of the 2 walls.

I'm not entirely sure that T3 and Cook would be a scum pair, Cook's plays to me suggest a scum pair more than T3's plays do, but I don't think its likely. I think more likely is T3 playing off of Cook being town due to T3 having scum knowledge.
Regarding his parter, I can see GrandpaMo as the partner, for reasons I think I brought up much earlier, which haven't changed, but that mainly stemmed from GrandpaMo flipping red first instead of T3. If T3 flips red first I don't think I can say for sure its GrandpaMo, but considering we'd be 1 scum less, push comes to shove I'd vote to hammer GrandpaMo day 3.

Regarding Val, I do think in my early Day 1 targetting of him may have actually been spurred on by stubbornness more than a concrete point. I think in terms of intent his is the simplest, "all cards on the table" type of scum hunting. For you alstro, I think just because you have more experience the way you scum hunt seems a bit less so? I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense. For NorweiganboyEE, I do think he is scum hunting, but of course with a less of an "all cards on the table" vibe.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:50 pm

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Cook, can I say why?
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:54 pm

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In post 1076, T3 wrote:Cook, can I say why?
We all have inferred why.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 1076, T3 wrote:Cook, can I say why?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:11 pm

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I found Cook soft FN. :(
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:12 pm

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I'm bad at keeping secrets.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 16, Cook wrote:silence condemner

can't i just give a FRIENDLY introduction to myself?

gotta confuse the newbies somehow.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:14 pm

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claiming FN right here and now

i'm giving who i hugged last night about (expired on 2021-06-27 22:14:00) until i lockscum them.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 1075, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 1073, alstroemerial wrote: Regarding Val, I do think in my early Day 1 targetting of him may have actually been spurred on by stubbornness more than a concrete point. I think in terms of intent his is the simplest, "all cards on the table" type of scum hunting. For you alstro, I think just because you have more experience the way you scum hunt seems a bit less so? I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense. For NorweiganboyEE, I do think he is scum hunting, but of course with a less of an "all cards on the table" vibe.
If I'm understanding correctly, I'm flattered I guess but this is only my second game. I made the account a while ago but I haven't played in, like, 5 years! :lol:
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:34 pm

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Also, I didn't get a hug but I understand... little turtle legs aren't conducive to embraces /joke
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:37 pm

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In post 1079, T3 wrote:I found Cook soft FN. :(
Assuming this is true, why did you hint at it? Why did you not save it for when Cook was H-1? You could have just said it was vibes.

Now let's assume post was a breadcrumb. What benefit does the Friendly Neighbour have, to breadcrumbing? Firstly if it gets spotted they get killed Night 1, secondly they let other people know of their alignment, so if anybody ever counter-claimed Friendly Neighbour in a Hammer or Lose scenario it would never work.

Thirdly, I don't buy this idea that you're not in cahoots with T3 after doing some reading, maybe too much coincidence but you only ever post anything impactful while T3 also does, every else is a prod dodge, maybe that was thinking too much into it but oh well.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:39 pm

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Is anyone counter claiming anything which would cause an issue with Cook's claim? If so and Cook is lying it basically means with certainty that T3 is also scum.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:41 pm

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For reasons in I'm not accepting Cook's claim unless there are no counter claims of any sort.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:44 pm

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I'll shut up now.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:44 pm

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VOTE: James
Now I will.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 1089, T3 wrote:VOTE: James
Now I will.
If Cook ends up being a Friendly Neighbour you hinting at it really was not a wise play by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:00 pm

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I do agree that FN is a weird thing to crumb and but I'm inclined to believe Cook precisely because it's such a weird thing to fake claim, especially not at H-1. Like, if no one comes and confirms that they got hugged by Cook, then Cook is going to say they're lock scum, and then if they aren't scum it would come to light pretty fast.

I suggest for now we give it a period of time, let everyone alive get in the thread and see if anyone says they got the FN thing, and then cross the bridge depending on what happens.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:02 pm

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T3 being scum doesn't change for me regardless of this outcome but you are definitely correct. Goodnight for now.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:25 pm

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i'd like to point out as well this is a great way to fakeclaim FN

you pretend you hugged your scumpartner, then do this thing i'm doing here

wait for nobody to respond

tell everyone who you hugged

and then get 'em run up for lying
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:27 pm

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Why don’t you say who you target instead of having us wait?
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:41 pm

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Imagine claiming Friendly Neighbor and then having your scum partner confirm an visit.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:49 pm

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why does scum fakeclaim fn here?

cant fn like prove to maybe alstro -- or maybe james who is never scum with them
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 1094, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why don’t you say who you target instead of having us wait?
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:53 pm

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In post 1097, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 1094, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why don’t you say who you target instead of having us wait?
Val
Where did they say that?
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:01 pm

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k... i thought cook was scum -- and i was going to scumcase them but wait ...


i am forgetting about fake claims. but why does mafia claim FN? when they can easily confirm themselves through another trusted player. i feel like since no prs have been outted -- it would be optimal to stay quiet and assume that cook is FN.

so, if cook is town. and i still believe T3 is town as well.

voting pool would consist of NEE, James, Val, Alstro

I also believe James is town and this day proves it -- I can formulate a whole towncase on them now if needed.

And alstro I had was thought since day 1... but also NEE.

Only person I had scum was Val, so if I assume Val is scum and then other scum just lies between Alstro / NEE
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