Newbie 2069: Summertime [game over!]

[Cabd]

illwei had a really good post early on that i feel is uh, pretty hard for a new player to make as scum. what's the reason they're scumread?

Please unpack this more before i go completely Xenossil cabd on him?

[Cabd]

Okay so yeah after initial catch up I'm somewhere around here-ish:

The Town

Ydrasse
The Bulge
Roden

The Lean Town

StrangeMatter

Real Time Interaction Data Gathering Needed (Nulls ish)

GrandpaMo
piisirrational

The Not Town

Illwei

[The Bulge]

To me, Roden reads as somebody incredibly frustrated by the game and people's perception, and determined to feel heard and validated, damn the torpedoes.

I think what grandpamo was saying makes sense to me now, about roden staying this path. I think people on this site too often assume that scum plays optimally at all times and is immune to accidentally weakening their own position (like when people say "why would they make this really sloppy move as scum?" I tend to think "because whatever we were doing worked"). but the statements Roden makes in his moments of passion are so consistently false and nonsensical I'm not sure I'm comfortable reading the reactionary posting as AI after all.

thing is tho I'm reminded very strongly of Duchess v Green Crayons in 2195. and I loathe to let my loud and correct scumreads slip through my fingers. ahhhh. still probably gonna ignore for today, despite what some people have side I really don't think town!Roden is all that great an info flip.

[The Bulge]

*what people have said

[Cabd]

I'm reminded very strongly of Duchess v Green Crayons in 2195

I am unfamiliar with this lore. Link it?

[The Bulge]

I'm not sure pi's opener comes from a scum replacement? just the immediate vibe I got.

[The Bulge]

I'm reminded very strongly of Duchess v Green Crayons in 2195

I am unfamiliar with this lore. Link it?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

duchess is me which Im sure you knew

[The Bulge]

start at 133

[Cabd]

Thanks will deep dive on my lunch break.

[Cabd]

I'm reminded very strongly of Duchess v Green Crayons in 2195

I am unfamiliar with this lore. Link it?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

duchess is me which Im sure you knew

Didn't know that, actually.

I see where you might find parallels, but I am going to stick to my gut-guns sand say this isn't the same scenario here.

The self righteousness here comes off as town to me, and it'll take a lot to shake me on that read.

Your trying makes me happy that I have you both in the green tier, although I doubt you'll kiss and make up.

I miss Noraa, trolling her was fun and yggdra is so srsbsns.

[Roden]

I've just wasted half an hour of my life responding to your lies. I'm becoming sympathetic to Noraa's position of just voting you out regardless of your alignment, you're too annoying to work with and I find it frustrating responding to an argument against me that's just based on nonsense.

god I relate to this whole post so hard. why I didn't respond to 239. bimble's recent string of posts are very very townie.

There's actually no point to me being in this game if my scum reads are just going to refuse to respond to me but continue to keep insulting me and discrediting me. I'm glad you didn't act like this in my first game, you would've single-handedly turned me off from this site. I don't think you should sign up for newbie games if this how you're gonna treat people.

Formally requesting to replace out.

[Datisi]

replacing Roden.

as a reminder, replace outs are to be done

by pm-ing the mod only

. this is a bolded rule in my ruleset, as well as a part of the sitewide rules. i recommend all of you to read both of those.

[Cabd]

:/

[StrangeMatter]

Well that's no good.

[The Bulge]

maaaaaan. :/

[Cabd]

My points stands but is kind of unnecessary now.

[The Bulge]

I'm reminded very strongly of Duchess v Green Crayons in 2195

I am unfamiliar with this lore. Link it?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

duchess is me which Im sure you knew

Didn't know that, actually.

I see where you might find parallels, but I am going to stick to my gut-guns sand say this isn't the same scenario here.

The self righteousness here comes off as town to me, and it'll take a lot to shake me on that read.

Your trying makes me happy that I have you both in the green tier, although I doubt you'll kiss and make up.

I miss Noraa, trolling her was fun and yggdra is so srsbsns.

ah i was thinking i revealed after popcorn redux. well enjoy that little addendum to my meta file then.

I think I see what you mean, where GC came off more skeevy, roden shows more direct emotional reaction that doesn't necessarily have an agenda.

[Cabd]

Like I know i have a tendency to over-read cheekyness, but that was SO town it.. yeah.

In a 3P with you and that slot I'd hammer you three times over.

[The Bulge]

noted, lol

[Cabd]

GrandpaMo
piisirrational

Hi folks I miss you plz come visit papa cabd.

[GrandpaMo]

I've just wasted half an hour of my life responding to your lies. I'm becoming sympathetic to Noraa's position of just voting you out regardless of your alignment, you're too annoying to work with and I find it frustrating responding to an argument against me that's just based on nonsense.

god I relate to this whole post so hard. why I didn't respond to 239. bimble's recent string of posts are very very townie.

I agree -- Bimble has proven themselves way more than Illwee -- I doubt they are S/S now. I still thought that Roden V Bimble was just two townies having two different playstyles competing for each others head to say "Aha I got you there!" when in fact -- that can't happen because both have shown no either AI cases because if you analyze what the both were saying to each other, they were just mad at each other just for playstyle.

Also, I see piirational could be bussing Illwee here if Illwee is scum. Does anyone see that?

[GrandpaMo]

GrandpaMo
piisirrational

Hi folks I miss you plz come visit papa cabd.

Hi Cabd, I said something to you awhile back when you replaced in but you ignored meee ;-;

Also, I am grandpapa

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like Pii is indidually towny, but with Illwee -- they seem scummy.

I have a question (anyone can answer this) ... How do I as town, approach a sitatuion for this? Do I overall townread them because they had posts that showed their towniess? Or do I scumread them overall, because associative with Illwee -- they could have been just sheeping me to follow a bus on them.

[Illwei]

if illwei flips scum after Zyla was scum in 2065, I'm never doubting the TBH tell again

The whatnow

[StrangeMatter]

I feel like Pii is indidually towny, but with Illwee -- they seem scummy.

I have a question (anyone can answer this) ... How do I as town, approach a sitatuion for this? Do I overall townread them because they had posts that showed their towniess? Or do I scumread them overall, because associative with Illwee -- they could have been just sheeping me to follow a bus on them.

Can I see what pings you as a possibility of those two being scum together?