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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:47 am

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In post 205, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like accusing someone of not being active the second they come in the thread is just a scum tactic and thus he's just scum
My impression of cyrus is that it wouldn't stop town!him.

In post 210, Titus wrote:
In post 203, NDMath wrote:Specifically liked Titus's posts on Kitty.
You liked my post where I was utterly wrong?
Am confused what you are referring to, I was going off of the corrected name.
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:47 am

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A50 didn't appear to think you were scum in his spicy post about voting you (it read more like "Shape up!"), so I figured there was something else going on.

Pedit @Elsa
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:54 am

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In post 524, Elsa Jay wrote:For reference Almost is mad at me for the literally just finished mini normal 2216 in which I broke his trust and now he has the baboon butt avatar because of it. That's why he voted me. Dunno about Titus.
In post 526, Iecerint wrote:A50 didn't appear to think you were scum in his spicy post about voting you (it read more like "Shape up!"), so I figured there was something else going on.

Pedit @Elsa
Yeah. That's also the game where I was just playing with HEM so he assumed I hard chainsawed my partner so that's why I think he voted me here. Now that he knows I specifically
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Or he still just thinks I'm an easy push.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:59 am

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Nice okay screaming ended so I can meta cyrus.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:03 am

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In post 220, Dunnstral wrote: What do you think about ActionDan?
Scumlean, don't like his early posts regarding mechanics. After that it's better but there's nothing in his iso yet that to me actually feels more likely to come from town.

In post 282, ActionDan wrote:It's tedium.

Almost can you provide an example of the meta you are claiming Elsa exhibits consistently? I'd like to 2nd Titus's request of ndMath to show which posts of hers surrounding Kitty ndMath liked.
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In post 101, Titus wrote:I actually like Kitty as town. Saying this is all bullshit in a sea of mechanics talk is a good position.

I'm sick of the mechanics talk too. The setup will reveal itself with time.
In post 102, Titus wrote:
In post 96, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Well, I guess Elsa can't be TMI about KittyTacky's town alignment because there are two scum teams in this game. So maybe if KittyTacky flips town, Elsa's town as well. Otherwise, if KittyTacky flips scum, there's an obvious connection to be made that Elsa is partners with Kitty.
Not sure I agree with this. Even if Elsa flips scum, it's a factor, not a confirmation. It could be a pocket.

This depends on Elsa scum first.
In post 135, Titus wrote:
In post 129, KittyTacky wrote:I don't like this. Mechanics talk is how we figure out the setup-- that's hard to do with just flips.
Acceptable but we do it with flips. Anything else just gives away role information and gives scum a place to hide.

Okay I see Titus saying they were wrong with now, I didn't process it at the time.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:03 am

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I messed up that post link whoops
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:06 am

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Scum cyrus posts a lot of shallow, short posts. He's much more rational than town him and tends to tunnel less. He doesn't throw out reads early on and when he fonaly does they are either completely unexplained or by just "vibes"
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:07 am

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@Dan, re: Elsa, now that NDMath has answered, check out Redneck Mafia, where D1 I related to (town)Elsa in about the same way as I think you have today.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:09 am

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He's also very conscious about the votecount and hoe many votes he's at and tries to give fake helpfulness by warning people about quickhammers.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 531, T3 wrote:Scum cyrus posts a lot of shallow, short posts. He's much more rational than town him and tends to tunnel less. He doesn't throw out reads early on and when he fonaly does they are either completely unexplained or by just "vibes"
Apply this knowledge to what you think Cyrus's alignment is this game.
In post 533, T3 wrote:He's also very conscious about the votecount and hoe many votes he's at and tries to give fake helpfulness by warning people about quickhammers.
Similar to above: are you describing his play this game, how scum!Cyrus plays, or both?
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:20 am

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522 was one of the two posts I was waiting for.

Don't even need to double check things to know Iec is town from it.

(I will though)
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:21 am

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Almost50 is both more contributive and more motivated than my previous two games with him of each alignment. Generally I'd consider it more indicative of availability than alignment but from my understanding of the player it's a bit town-indicative.

In post 522, Iecerint wrote: 19. Dunnstall asking NDMath about ActionDan is scummy (220)
Why is that scummy?
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:23 am

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In post 534, Iecerint wrote:
In post 531, T3 wrote:Scum cyrus posts a lot of shallow, short posts. He's much more rational than town him and tends to tunnel less. He doesn't throw out reads early on and when he fonaly does they are either completely unexplained or by just "vibes"
Apply this knowledge to what you think Cyrus's alignment is this game.
In post 533, T3 wrote:He's also very conscious about the votecount and hoe many votes he's at and tries to give fake helpfulness by warning people about quickhammers.
Similar to above: are you describing his play this game, how scum!Cyrus plays, or both?
How scum cyrus plays.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:25 am

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I assume from the thing you also realized I was town (when I mock did it myself)? I didn't discover it until late; impressed you got it right away. If I was scum I'd be jerking off in the PT. (as I assume you would)
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:26 am

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still busy with peoples though. bbl
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:27 am

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Cyrus is tunneling nom and hem since the very start and has given reasons. He's had weird theories about the scumteam which is different to his scum meta.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:28 am

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Yes T3 but is Cyrus scum or town this game or are you just showing your work but don't have a conclusion?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:31 am

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In post 541, Nero Cain wrote:Yes T3 but is Cyrus scum or town this game or are you just showing your work but don't have a conclusion?
Town.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:37 am

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In post 486, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I'm looking at Almost50's iso right now and I honestly have no idea how to read this.
In post 487, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Like am I supposed to townread this? It just feels like a reaction video for this thread than an actual attempt at solving stuff
That’s kinda how he is
But I kinda want more details because if you’re onto something then he called me out for the exact thing he did
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 492, Elsa Jay wrote:Honestly Almost doesn't seem like he's in a good mood RN so I reserve a read until I see him back to normal. Unless rage is a scumtell for him, which I doubt.
Why does Almost50 seem enraged?
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 497, Nero Cain wrote:Bashing me for not being active is something that scum has very much done before so they can shade me slot.
This is definitely true
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:41 am

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In post 498, nomnomnom wrote:I'll say it again: cyrus doesn't function like the vast majority of players and reading him from that angle will produce horrible results.
nom3 can you either expand on your Cyrus townread or point me towards some posts where you’ve explained it?
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:42 am

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In post 509, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 504, humaneatingmonkey wrote:why is that a scum slip cyrus?
they dont make brain farts like that in any town game i have been with them in.
This seems like a pretty weak tell ngl
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:45 am

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cyrus spouts ridiculous and completely wrong theories regularly. His takes are usualy abhorrent. That is why cyrus is best read by intent and meta.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 522, Iecerint wrote:21. I'm confess I skipped A50's catchup 300+. I skipped to the end to geta TL;DR. I was surprised there was not one. This is fairly dissonant, suggestive of active lurking (because there's a barrier to engaging with him, but he's behaving as if he wants to be active and engage)
I could see A50 active lurking as scum
His recent scum meta seems to be to slank through
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