Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[clidd]

i am not getting any townie pings on clidd this game, which i think is somewhat concerning, considering that every game with him so far (that i was town and thus had to read him), he'd give me those townie pings and he was town?

actually before i go, i just remembered that is a lie, he did fool me once. but also i'm still not getting any townie pings from him this game so take it as you will.

Spoiler:

[clidd]

re clidd, i think he has that sort of style i tend to scumread, so i'm being more hesitant in saying he doesn't feel town. that said, when he has explained his thought process (ie on Tweetie and on Robert) i don't see the connection between that and how the scumpings and townpings he has on players are coming about.

If you have any questions about a particular read, let me know.

[Ydrasse]

i don't know how to play as town anymore ;_;

[clidd]

I honestly don't know what to ask to yin/yang.

[Ircher]

clidd you have asked me way too many questions.

clidd may no longer ask me questions for 24 hours or until any player pays me a compliment

@Yang

: You are very entertaining!

[Ydrasse]

i wonder if yang is allowed endless posts per day but yin only gets one

[Ydrasse]

i think that kinda makes sense given the... quality of content?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Yang your presence lights up the room and we are lost without you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My purpose is to make sure Tanner is either eliminated or nightkilled whichever he doesn't prefer. Well. That's one of my purposes. For sure.

VOTE: Tanner

I have to get to the next part of this story <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't know how to play as town anymore ;_;

You've been bad for too long

[Ydrasse]

carry me pooky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Tanner]

It would be interesting for us to discuss your read on Robert when you have time. Something tells me he's someone like ''town acting erratic/sporadic'' but not ''scum planning a push''.

it's 2am and i have a headache (an actual one, not related to this game) so i'll likely sleep soon, but i'm not sure i've got anything to say here that i've not already said. his points on me just felt really reachy. and while i know that is not necessarily scum!indicative of itself, the fact that he froze and stopped posting once he found out one of his points is moot, as opposed to started re-evaluating his push... i don't like it. it's not a slam dunk case in any way (and i'm not pretending it is), but it's the best i got so far.

i noticed you started off saying he's scumpinging you, then later on you said you don't vibe with his wagon - have you explained what changed your mind here?

[Infinity 324]

Feel better

[Tanner]

thank you! it's me being stupid and using earbuds (+ loud music) too much today. i'll survive.

[clidd]

@Tanner

Initially he pinged me as scummy, but after I started theorizing about his course of action in a scum!Robert scenario, it didn't make much sense that he specifically selected you to push, mostly because of the cost-benefit.

He attracted a lot of attention to himself and ignored your town ping on him to go into a 1v1. If you were the one who went to him first, it would make more sense for scum!him to respond appropriately with a scumread, but he was the one who went after you and started the conflict, which is why I don't see a plausible *scum motivation* in his actions (and made me reconsider the initial impression on him).

[clidd]

I mean, if I go a bit deeper, assuming that his goal would be to eliminate you or somehow promote himself as towny, there wouldn't be a sudden interruption with the information that Datisi and you were the same person. In reality, scum!he would be more inclined to pay attention and not make that kind of mistake (same applies to scumread but with late vote on 252).

[clidd]

Freeze after lighting a spark between the two of you would also be terrible for his credibility. Would scum!Robert just not care about that?

[clidd]

I agree, however, that he didn't make it easy to understand the slot and that it's not possible to guess his intention without him speaking up about the posts. It's not like I'm complacent about giving a free pass to a slot with weird behavior but I think it's important to emphasize my take on this wagon (in case something drastic happens in his absence).

[clidd]

Alternatively, he could just be scum who made a simple mistake and decided to avoid/abandon the game (or had some outside interference), but that's not a satisfactory explanation given the way he navigated the suspicion on you.

[Ircher]

Just remember: scum aren't perfect. They try, but they fail as well.

[clidd]

All this assuming we are playing a game with traditional factions (town vs scum).

pedit: Yeah, that's true.

[clidd]

But meh, stills unsatisfactory. I hope he comes back.

[clidd]

[Morning Tweet]

Scum can certainly vanish as a response to pressure, that can even work to relieve it sometimes. And of course it might be unrelated to alignment anyway