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[Dwlee99]

Andres, DGB and DotW are masons

[Andresvmb]

Yeah they’ve claimed that. I have also seen Scum claim Friendly Neighbor with a check on another Scum. They’re way too horribly wrong for them to be Town to me.

[Andresvmb]

But frankly if they’re Masons then who is Scum?

[Andresvmb]

And I’m just tired of re-reading this game. It’s way too long for 2 days of gameplay.

[Dwlee99]

I think STD is evil.
Pedit: have you read all of it at least once?

[Andresvmb]

Like I’ve read every single word of the first ~1,800 posts and it’s exhausting.

[Dwlee99]

Doesn't that mean you haven't even gotten to the part where Cyrus replaced-in, immediately decided to claim the babysitter role thing, and then scum nightkilled him anyway?

Maybe a good line of reasoning here is: who would shoot that as scum?

[Andresvmb]

And does 1869 strike you as the post that a Mason makes? I’m not buying that crap at all. But whatever I need to finish reading I guess. Back in like 2 more interminable hours.

[Andresvmb]

Doesn't that mean you haven't even gotten to the part where Cyrus replaced-in, immediately decided to claim the babysitter role thing, and then scum nightkilled him anyway?

Maybe a good line of reasoning here is: who would shoot that as scum?

I was around when that claim happened.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway I don’t want to try and get into the mindset of trying to guess exactly why a group of Scum decided on a particular NK. I just don’t think that’s particularly effective. It’s much better when there’s like 1 Scum left because you can put yourself in every person’s shoes that’s left in the game and see whether it makes sense. You don’t know who is deferring to who in the Scum PT. And that carries more weight than you think.

[Andresvmb]

Also 1369 alone should be reason enough to vote Titus. And I know DotW is defending most of their early positions as just being wrong but 1379 is equally horrifying.

[Dwlee99]

And does 1869 strike you as the post that a Mason makes? I’m not buying that crap at all. But whatever I need to finish reading I guess. Back in like 2 more interminable hours.

I mean if you're not trying to claim immediately yea.

Anyway I don’t want to try and get into the mindset of trying to guess exactly why a group of Scum decided on a particular NK. I just don’t think that’s particularly effective. It’s much better when there’s like 1 Scum left because you can put yourself in every person’s shoes that’s left in the game and see whether it makes sense. You don’t know who is deferring to who in the Scum PT. And that carries more weight than you think.

Well we could determine who is deferring to who by going through each person's shoes and seeing who might do that? It could find at least one scum if we are lucky.

[Dwlee99]

I'll maybe doubt the masons only if you can find a post where they express doubt on each other's alignments. From what I remember, they never did that.

[Andresvmb]

I mean if you're not trying to claim immediately yea.

I still don’t get this. I’ve seen multiple people now over multiple games that suggest that your PR is better than catching a Scum. Just no. If you think someone is claiming your role and you could CC them to death, you do it. So you would want to try and get direct confirmation. Not question the claim in that silly way. But whatever.

[Dragon of the West]

So we have to remember that Vax was informed.
And the informed roles are a lot more unique from Gypyx games.

It's possible that scum were informed of the babysitter

Thoughts on this VFP?

Even if Titus is town I think knowledge around the babysitter role is very plausible given how the role is.

Actually, re checking this, it looks like informed are based more around the passives on previous games.
It also seems that Gypyx likes to work around the unique role.
This game would be the babysitter Vig.

So it's plausible they knew the role anyway or Titus is scum babysitter and they knew other parts of Cyrus's role.

To clarify again.
1 informed knew all of the passives in the game, and there were a lot.
The other knew there was an ascetic role, and this role looked to be a main focus of the game.

So far we haven't seen a great amount of passives even though its plausible there are.

Scum could have also known that there was a revenge townie which could have influenced who voted or if scum tried to shadow someone else pushing town.

Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about

[DrippingGoofball]

And does 1869 strike you as the post that a Mason makes?

DotW literally called it a scum gambit.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: anya

I dont really need an answer, as I already have it.

anya!town doesnt say "they're trying to convince me now that they're a wolf and i should vote for them"

It comes off as knowing ssmb_kyko cant be a wolf. (trying to CONVINCE)

anya!town WOULD SAY "ssmb keeps saying they are a wolf."

HALLELUJAH

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: anya

I dont really need an answer, as I already have it.

anya!town doesnt say "they're trying to convince me now that they're a wolf and i should vote for them"

It comes off as knowing ssmb_kyko cant be a wolf. (trying to CONVINCE)

anya!town WOULD SAY "ssmb keeps saying they are a wolf."

HALLELUJAH

What do you mean by this?

[DrippingGoofball]

Finally someone realizes Anya is scum!

Then I realized that for some technical reason that I haven't figured out, my browser had transported me to the page where post 1854 is.

[Dwlee99]

Vaxkiller flipped mafia compulsive jailkeeper

[Gypyx]

Mod: Can we get a deadline extension while we wait for the replacement?

I'll switch my vote to StD if need be, this post is mainly a prod dodge.

sure, new deadline is : (expired on 2021-07-06 22:25:53) (36 hours extension)

[VFP]

Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about

This is credit to Peterpan's post with the leg work.

Informed), thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has :

This game no, and I don't think Gypyx re uses the same. But this shows that informed isn't just a generic informed role.

[Titus]

Happy Cake day Dwlee99

[Dwlee99]

Happy Cake day Dwlee99

Thanks!

[Dragon of the West]

Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about

This is credit to Peterpan's post with the leg work.

Informed), thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has :

This game no, and I don't think Gypyx re uses the same. But this shows that informed isn't just a generic informed role.

Hmmm gotcha, thanks for the explanation.