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Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:07 pm

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Andres, DGB and DotW are masons
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Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:08 pm

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Yeah they’ve claimed that. I have also seen Scum claim Friendly Neighbor with a check on another Scum. They’re way too horribly wrong for them to be Town to me.
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Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:08 pm

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But frankly if they’re Masons then who is Scum?
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Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:09 pm

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And I’m just tired of re-reading this game. It’s way too long for 2 days of gameplay.
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Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:10 pm

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I think STD is evil.
Pedit: have you read all of it at least once?
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Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:10 pm

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Like I’ve read every single word of the first ~1,800 posts and it’s exhausting.
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Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:12 pm

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Doesn't that mean you haven't even gotten to the part where Cyrus replaced-in, immediately decided to claim the babysitter role thing, and then scum nightkilled him anyway?

Maybe a good line of reasoning here is: who would shoot that as scum?
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Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:13 pm

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And does strike you as the post that a Mason makes? I’m not buying that crap at all. But whatever I need to finish reading I guess. Back in like 2 more interminable hours.
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Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:13 pm

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In post 3231, Dwlee99 wrote:Doesn't that mean you haven't even gotten to the part where Cyrus replaced-in, immediately decided to claim the babysitter role thing, and then scum nightkilled him anyway?

Maybe a good line of reasoning here is: who would shoot that as scum?
I was around when that claim happened.
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Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:15 pm

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Anyway I don’t want to try and get into the mindset of trying to guess exactly why a group of Scum decided on a particular NK. I just don’t think that’s particularly effective. It’s much better when there’s like 1 Scum left because you can put yourself in every person’s shoes that’s left in the game and see whether it makes sense. You don’t know who is deferring to who in the Scum PT. And that carries more weight than you think.
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Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:17 pm

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Also alone should be reason enough to vote Titus. And I know DotW is defending most of their early positions as just being wrong but is equally horrifying.
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Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:17 pm

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In post 3232, Andresvmb wrote:And does strike you as the post that a Mason makes? I’m not buying that crap at all. But whatever I need to finish reading I guess. Back in like 2 more interminable hours.
I mean if you're not trying to claim immediately yea.
In post 3234, Andresvmb wrote:Anyway I don’t want to try and get into the mindset of trying to guess exactly why a group of Scum decided on a particular NK. I just don’t think that’s particularly effective. It’s much better when there’s like 1 Scum left because you can put yourself in every person’s shoes that’s left in the game and see whether it makes sense. You don’t know who is deferring to who in the Scum PT. And that carries more weight than you think.
Well we could determine who is deferring to who by going through each person's shoes and seeing who might do that? It could find at least one scum if we are lucky.
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Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:21 pm

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I'll maybe doubt the masons only if you can find a post where they express doubt on each other's alignments. From what I remember, they never did that.
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Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:22 pm

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In post 3236, Dwlee99 wrote:I mean if you're not trying to claim immediately yea.
I still don’t get this. I’ve seen multiple people now over multiple games that suggest that your PR is better than catching a Scum. Just no. If you think someone is claiming your role and you could CC them to death, you do it. So you would want to try and get direct confirmation. Not question the claim in that silly way. But whatever.
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Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:25 am

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In post 3097, VFP wrote:So we have to remember that Vax was informed.
And the informed roles are a lot more unique from Gypyx games.
In post 3101, VFP wrote:
In post 3100, VFP wrote:
In post 3098, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3082, Dwlee99 wrote:It's possible that scum were informed of the babysitter
Thoughts on this VFP?
Even if Titus is town I think knowledge around the babysitter role is very plausible given how the role is.
Actually, re checking this, it looks like informed are based more around the passives on previous games.
It also seems that Gypyx likes to work around the unique role.
This game would be the babysitter Vig.

So it's plausible they knew the role anyway or Titus is scum babysitter and they knew other parts of Cyrus's role.
In post 3102, VFP wrote:To clarify again.
1 informed knew all of the passives in the game, and there were a lot.
The other knew there was an ascetic role, and this role looked to be a main focus of the game.

So far we haven't seen a great amount of passives even though its plausible there are.

Scum could have also known that there was a revenge townie which could have influenced who voted or if scum tried to shadow someone else pushing town.
Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about
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Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:37 am

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In post 3232, Andresvmb wrote:And does 1869 strike you as the post that a Mason makes?
DotW literally called it a scum gambit.
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Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:45 am

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In post 1854, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: anya

I dont really need an answer, as I already have it.

anya!town doesnt say "they're trying to convince me now that they're a wolf and i should vote for them"

It comes off as knowing ssmb_kyko cant be a wolf. (trying to CONVINCE)

anya!town WOULD SAY "ssmb keeps saying they are a wolf."
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Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:54 am

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In post 3241, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1854, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: anya

I dont really need an answer, as I already have it.

anya!town doesnt say "they're trying to convince me now that they're a wolf and i should vote for them"

It comes off as knowing ssmb_kyko cant be a wolf. (trying to CONVINCE)

anya!town WOULD SAY "ssmb keeps saying they are a wolf."
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What do you mean by this?
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Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:58 am

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Finally someone realizes Anya is scum!

Then I realized that for some technical reason that I haven't figured out, my browser had transported me to the page where post 1854 is.
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Post Post #3244 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:03 am

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Vaxkiller flipped mafia compulsive jailkeeper
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Post Post #3245 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 am

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In post 3216, ChaosOmega wrote:
Mod: Can we get a deadline extension while we wait for the replacement?


I'll switch my vote to StD if need be, this post is mainly a prod dodge.
sure, new deadline is : (expired on 2021-07-06 22:25:53) (36 hours extension)
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Post Post #3246 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 3239, Dragon of the West wrote:Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about
This is credit to Peterpan's post with the leg work.
In post 3103, Gypyx wrote:Informed), thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has :
This game no, and I don't think Gypyx re uses the same. But this shows that informed isn't just a generic informed role.
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Post Post #3247 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:35 am

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Post Post #3248 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:37 am

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In post 3247, Titus wrote:Happy Cake day Dwlee99
Thanks!
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Post Post #3249 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:49 am

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In post 3246, VFP wrote:
In post 3239, Dragon of the West wrote:Hey VFP, can we come back to you talking about the informed roles? Are you suggesting that scum has/had an informed role telling them ALL passives? That seems like too much info for one slot to be informed about
This is credit to Peterpan's post with the leg work.
In post 3103, Gypyx wrote:Informed), thier activated information tells them all the modifiers that town has :
This game no, and I don't think Gypyx re uses the same. But this shows that informed isn't just a generic informed role.
Hmmm gotcha, thanks for the explanation.
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