Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata has not been lying! Nakata doesn't know what Amy Dunne wants Nakata to say when she says "are you going to bother explaining to me why I'm wrong"! Nakata thinks his posts are clearly from a town perspective because Nakata is town.

I asked you why you keep switching your vote? First you wanted to lim Robert, then Tweetie and now maybe me? Do you not see why that looks bad and do you also not understand why Ydrasse voted you? Because it didn’t look like you were really trying to sort Robert.

You keep saying you’re town and your sole focus is slots on your wagon, which seems myopic to me.

No, Nakata does not know why friend Ydrasse voted him. Nakata thought she was just mistaken but now Nakata is wondering if she is the type of scum who would set up a wagon and not just sheep onto it!

Nakata doesn't see why changing who he thinks is scum looks bad, particularly, Nakata thinks he is displaying a natural progression in his reads based on what's happening in the game.

Of course Nakata is more interested in those players on his wagon because the only information Nakata has for sure is that Nakata is town!

And Nakata was trying to sort Robert M Hunter!

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata thinks he may have been wrong on Amy Dunne and she might be a friend. If Amy Dunne were scum Nakata is not sure why should would let up on him now.

[Satoru Nakata]

i don't think your posting style has to do with why you're being pushed, Nakata.

i also don't think that saying you were pushing Robert when you don't think you were pushing Robert doesn't mean Amy is lying about it, you were happy with the Robert wagon and agreed with Tanner, even if it's not a hardpush that was still a wagon your were supporting, calling it a lie is rather reductive.

Nakata thinks the extent to which someone did something is important to reading them. For instance, someone who votes for scum is simply bussing and is more easily found than someone who leads a wagon on scum who is hardbussing. Likewise, someone who simply expresses a TR on a slot that is likely to die is white knighting, whereas someone who really tries to save them or derail the wagon is more likely town who is correctly townreading them.

Nakata thinks a substantial part of why people are pushing him is how he communicates! Nakata really doesn't think he's been very scummy so Nakata is doubtful that it's all or primarily based on his play.

[Amy Dunne]

Nakata has not been lying! Nakata doesn't know what Amy Dunne wants Nakata to say when she says "are you going to bother explaining to me why I'm wrong"! Nakata thinks his posts are clearly from a town perspective because Nakata is town.

I asked you why you keep switching your vote? First you wanted to lim Robert, then Tweetie and now maybe me? Do you not see why that looks bad and do you also not understand why Ydrasse voted you? Because it didn’t look like you were really trying to sort Robert.

You keep saying you’re town and your sole focus is slots on your wagon, which seems myopic to me.

No, Nakata does not know why friend Ydrasse voted him. Nakata thought she was just mistaken but now Nakata is wondering if she is the type of scum who would set up a wagon and not just sheep onto it!

Nakata doesn't see why changing who he thinks is scum looks bad, particularly, Nakata thinks he is displaying a natural progression in his reads based on what's happening in the game.

Of course Nakata is more interested in those players on his wagon because the only information Nakata has for sure is that Nakata is town!

And Nakata was trying to sort Robert M Hunter!

Can you link/quote those posts where you were trying to sort Robert?

[Chara]

i'm not asking Nakata to change how he posts, but would others mind using their regular posting style? this feels petty to even ask but i am kind of finding some of it hard to follow.

[Satoru Nakata]

Also friend Clidd should unvote Nakata if Amy Dunne will not, because friend Flea is saying fae might vote for Nakata which would let scum hammer him.

Flea considers this to be a perfect example of why Nakata is considered to be rival.

Flea has no expressed any such intent to deliver such a damning motion, but has only expressed that fae considers you to be an enemy at this time.

Flea also takes offence you consider fae to be so hasty.

But Nakata is not an enemy and is not trying to offend friend Flea, Nakata just wants friend Flea to read him correctly so they can work together to look for scum.

Nakata doesn't understand what the above objection is, Nakata knows that Flea had not expressly threatened to vote him imminently, but Nakata may have to leave soon and was worried about potentially getting voted by Flea during his absence.

[Chara]

Nakata, can you talk about how you're reading Infinity and clidd?

[Satoru Nakata]

VOTE: Robert M Hunter

Satoru, what do you think about the reasoning on 251?

Nakata thinks it was a stretch and doesn't like it.

Nakata doesn’t think it matters very much if it wouldn’t tell us much if Robert does flip scum, and if he’s likely to be flipped at some point then Nakata thinks it might as well be today.

Nakata was sorting Robert M Hunter here. He wanted to see how Robert M Hunter would react to his vote and to a wagon on him. Nakata was then unconvinced that Robert M Hunter's reaction was that of a goodie.

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata, can you talk about how you're reading Infinity and clidd?

Nakata thinks Infinity 324 may be a baddie but thinks that Infinity 324 will become easier to read as the game goes on and often looks like scum on D1, so is not a priority to be limmed. Nakata thinks clidd is a friend who is mistaken on Nakata.

[clidd]

Hum (I'm here, reading, btw).

pedit: That's a good question.

pedit²: Oh, ok.

pedit³: Fair.

[Amy Dunne]

Nakata thinks he may have been wrong on Amy Dunne and she might be a friend. If Amy Dunne were scum Nakata is not sure why should would let up on him now.

I’m trying to figure out who is scum here and I don’t think it’s Tweetie and Ydrasse is one of my more confident trs, so if it’s not you, then who is fooling me then?

Who am I wrong on?

[Satoru Nakata]

Friend clidd, when you do multiple pedits in one post without specifying which posts they relate to, it becomes very unclear who you are speaking to or about. Also, please unvote Nakata!

[Flea The Magician]

Flea Does not act with haste - and is offended you consider fae as such a being.

Flea will remember this.

[Chara]

Nakata, can you talk about how you're reading Infinity and clidd?

Nakata thinks Infinity 324 may be a baddie but thinks that Infinity 324 will become easier to read as the game goes on and often looks like scum on D1, so is not a priority to be limmed. Nakata thinks clidd is a friend who is mistaken on Nakata.

i'm assuming you have experience with Infinity? i'm wondering why you didn't feel this way about Robert. or how you can conclude there are two scum pushing you that aren't Infinity if you don't have more than a null read on her.

i saw your clidd townread, i'm wondering if you talked about why clidd was town.

[Flea The Magician]

i'm not asking Nakata to change how he posts, but would others mind using their regular posting style? this feels petty to even ask but i am kind of finding some of it hard to follow.

Honestly half the time I can't help with the mirroring -.-;

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata thinks he may have been wrong on Amy Dunne and she might be a friend. If Amy Dunne were scum Nakata is not sure why should would let up on him now.

I’m trying to figure out who is scum here and I don’t think it’s Tweetie and Ydrasse is one of my more confident trs, so if it’s not you, then who is fooling me then?

Who am I wrong on?

Nakata knows both Morning Tweet and Ydrasse to be very good scumplayers so Nakata thinks that one or both of them might be fooling Amy Dunne. Also Infinity 324 might be scum, and Nakata still doesn't think Robert M Hunter has been town really.

Nakata thinks NorwegianboyEE is a friend, as is Tanner, and as is Chara, but he's not too sure on Pooky or Ircher. Maybe Ircher is not a friend, he doesn't seem very engaged in the game and Nakata thinks town would be having fun like him and want to play. Would Amy Dunne be willing to vote ircher with Nakata?

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata, can you talk about how you're reading Infinity and clidd?

Nakata thinks Infinity 324 may be a baddie but thinks that Infinity 324 will become easier to read as the game goes on and often looks like scum on D1, so is not a priority to be limmed. Nakata thinks clidd is a friend who is mistaken on Nakata.

i'm assuming you have experience with Infinity? i'm wondering why you didn't feel this way about Robert. or how you can conclude there are two scum pushing you that aren't Infinity if you don't have more than a null read on her.

i saw your clidd townread, i'm wondering if you talked about why clidd was town.

Nakata thinks that Infinity 324 may quite well be scum but that if Infinity 324 is scum then his friends will know for certain later. That is to say, Nakata scumleans Infinity 324 but doesn't believe her to be the most profitable target for today. Whereas Nakata doesn't think Robert M Hunter will become easier to read as the game goes on.

Nakata thinks clidd is approaching the game in line with his town meta and his overall effort is town indicative for him.

[Chara]

i'm not asking Nakata to change how he posts, but would others mind using their regular posting style? this feels petty to even ask but i am kind of finding some of it hard to follow.

Honestly half the time I can't help with the mirroring -.-;

that's fair. i asked so those who were just doing it for fun might consider not since i was finding some of the conversations harder to follow. not impossible, but increased cognitive load when you only have so much, y'know? it's not too big of a deal though.

[Chara]

Nakata thinks that Infinity 324 may quite well be scum but that if Infinity 324 is scum then his friends will know for certain later. That is to say, Nakata scumleans Infinity 324 but doesn't believe her to be the most profitable target for today. Whereas Nakata doesn't think Robert M Hunter will become easier to read as the game goes on.

Nakata thinks clidd is approaching the game in line with his town meta and his overall effort is town indicative for him.

okay, i can understand the first part.

can you be more specific on clidd? what parts of his town meta are you seeing? does he put in less effort as scum?

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata thinks that Infinity 324 may quite well be scum but that if Infinity 324 is scum then his friends will know for certain later. That is to say, Nakata scumleans Infinity 324 but doesn't believe her to be the most profitable target for today. Whereas Nakata doesn't think Robert M Hunter will become easier to read as the game goes on.

Nakata thinks clidd is approaching the game in line with his town meta and his overall effort is town indicative for him.

okay, i can understand the first part.

can you be more specific on clidd? what parts of his town meta are you seeing? does he put in less effort as scum?

Yes, Nakata thinks that clidd tends to not be so methodical as scum and to struggle more to maintain his levels of effort, which Nakata is not seeing here. Furthermore, Nakata believes that friend Clidd does not enjoy playing scum very much and yet he seems genuinely happy to be here and to be playing which Nakata also thinks makes him town.

[Amy Dunne]

Nakata thinks he may have been wrong on Amy Dunne and she might be a friend. If Amy Dunne were scum Nakata is not sure why should would let up on him now.

I’m trying to figure out who is scum here and I don’t think it’s Tweetie and Ydrasse is one of my more confident trs, so if it’s not you, then who is fooling me then?

Who am I wrong on?

Nakata knows both Morning Tweet and Ydrasse to be very good scumplayers so Nakata thinks that one or both of them might be fooling Amy Dunne. Also Infinity 324 might be scum, and Nakata still doesn't think Robert M Hunter has been town really.

Nakata thinks NorwegianboyEE is a friend, as is Tanner, and as is Chara, but he's not too sure on Pooky or Ircher. Maybe Ircher is not a friend, he doesn't seem very engaged in the game and Nakata thinks town would be having fun like him and want to play. Would Amy Dunne be willing to vote ircher with Nakata?

Ircher didn’t want to rush the day and since you were the lead wagon, why would scum!him do that?

[Satoru Nakata]

Nakata isn't sure, maybe ircher misplayed it if he's a baddie?

[Amy Dunne]

for the record - i still would prefer to yeet robert. but i see everyone is going by the "he came back and *gasp* made posts and showed emotion, obviously town!!" logic, so.

i'm back to thinking amy is on the scummier side of things. i don't know why, but some of her recent posting feels like she's not happy to be here. (before you ask why i voted infinity - because i'm not townreading her either and there was already a vote on her.)

however, while i was starting to feel better feelings about nakata, 866 feels slightly off to me, specifically the last line. like, i get the idea behind "forcing townbloccs is +scum behaviour", but, that's a *big* part for why you're voting your preferred scumread? i dunno.

tl;dr, reads probably being trash.

Tanner, what makes you think I’m unhappy to be here? I’m really excited about this game, so I really don’t understand where you’re getting that from?

[Chara]

Yes, Nakata thinks that clidd tends to not be so methodical as scum and to struggle more to maintain his levels of effort, which Nakata is not seeing here. Furthermore, Nakata believes that friend Clidd does not enjoy playing scum very much and yet he seems genuinely happy to be here and to be playing which Nakata also thinks makes him town.

if clidd could respond to this as well that'd be helpful. thanks for the answer, too.

i still think your scumread on Tweetie isn't great, but the one on Ydrasse i like even less, i don't remember you giving justification for why they have an agenda in voting you besides that they're good at scum.

[Amy Dunne]

Whomever scum is in this game, they’re playing really well because I really don’t have a clue who to vote for. I do know who I don’t want to vote for.

I’m hard tr Norwee, Clidd and Ydrasse. Tweeitie, Pooky, Flea aren’t concering me and I think Tanner’s probably town as well. I still think Robert is probably a miselim but beyond that, I’m really stumped.