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[Nero Cain]

I thought xshot roles were refunded if blocked, I swore I've seen that mechanic

[Almost50]

Why would town have a cop and a gunsmith?[/quote]

They both account for 3 investigative shots combined.

P-edit: shit! I messed up the quote.

Last time I mention this, but I NLOODY HATE PHONE POSTING

[Titus]

Why would town have a cop and a gunsmith?

it adds up to 3 shots. While Gamma could fake and maybe him outting himself when he didn't need to maybe points it being fake I don't feel like 2x cop and 1x GS is something so far fetched

I'm not really doubting gamma as a gunsmith. I don't think a non-gs plays the way Gamma does.

My question is if he's a town gunsmith.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm still trying to make sense of the intuition I got that Dunn slipped there.

[Titus]

I thought xshot roles were refunded if blocked, I swore I've seen that mechanic

Not in normals.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=X-Shot

[humaneatingmonkey]

Still stuck there.

How can one be so confident to say that the mafia team were targeting town and not Werewolves?

[humaneatingmonkey]

That's a type of confidence you can only get if you're a werewolf.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Like, which kill would tell you that?

[Dunnstral]

Still stuck there.

How can one be so confident to say that the mafia team were targeting town and not Werewolves?

Well I've explained it multiple times.

Also, gamma's claim is indeed not town

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Nero Cain]

prob b/c he knew that his faction wasn't trying to kill wolves

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Dunn

[humaneatingmonkey]

Well I've explained it multiple times.

I know but intuition says it wasn't a good POV and I'm not in the headspace to make sense of it but I have a strong gut feeling like that was a slip. How can you be so confident that your PoE is one and the same as the mafia team?

[Dunnstral]

How can you be so confident that your PoE is one and the same as the mafia team?

I'm not seeing anyone arguing against the poe with anything substantitive, only fear-mongering

Name names

[humaneatingmonkey]

Who walks into Day 2 with two random dead people declaring that "Oh yeah. That means the mafia team was trying to target town, and not werewolves for sure." I can understand ActionDan, but how can you say that with NDMath?

[Gamma Emerald]

So since you were allegedly roleblocked, shouldn't you be going after almost50?

Not exactly the question I had in mind, but it'll do. Mine would have been: why didn't Gamma target me rather than Kitty?

I wanted to target someone who seemed likely to be run up the next day to function as a fact-check to their claim. While I had bad vibes from you, you weren't a suspect for reasons that didn't feel like petty beef on some level. Kitty meanwhile actually seemed like someone who might get voted a fair amount.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'll sleep on it, Dunn.

[Dunnstral]

If it truly matters, ndmath is more like to have been killed by the wolf team just because he agreed with the poe for wolves and could be angled as scum harder than actiondan could, and I think the mafia team is a tad more likely to be aiming at town based on game state

[Dunnstral]

Werewolves don't even have guns in flavor, so gunsmith doesn't make sense as a claim

Even the normal guidelines don't say anything about that.

[Dunnstral]

Oh wait, it makes sense: He's a werewolf gunsmith

[Dunnstral]

In Normal games on mafiascum.net, a Gunsmith gets guilties on all Mafia (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, PT Cops, Vengefuls, Detectives, Neapolitans, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

[Dunnstral]

It would also find the two-shot alignment cop, so that's convenient

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay then.
I'm a 1-shot gunsmith. I crumbed in my opening post

VOTE: Almost50
Prepare to get greatest plan’ed

Also, my favorite Pokémon Rangers game is Guardian Signs jsyk

Pokemon Rangers = power role, guardian signs = gunsmith
The reason I'd been poking Almost50 about this is that I used a similar means of crumbing as he did in Mini 2041. That's why I dropped that number during Twilight yesterday. I also thought AD crumbed gunsmith himself in that quoted post rather than cop, which is why I am confused by it because he dropped a crumb for a role that he is not but that I am.
I targeted KittyTacky last night and got no result. My current guess is that one of the scumteams has a roleblocker that targeted me.

Why would town have a cop and a gunsmith?

they're both gated though?
and like, my role obviously exists alongside some false positive/negative, that's the exact point of gunsmith

Also, I kept this to myself D1, but I was shitting myself at the though of AD having my role. After what happened between T3 and Elsa, how the hell was I going to explain that we had the same role in a way that satisfied people? And I had AD as a townread even after he crumbed, so it seemed like a total loss. That's why I've been flipping out at his flip, because he crumbed something he wasn't that gave me unwarranted anxiety!!!

[Dunnstral]

And of course, why does one guy get to be a 2-shot alignment cop, but someone else is a 1-shot gunsmith?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I also don't remember you being this visible in Cook's Mini Normal, Dunn. You were town there.

[humaneatingmonkey]

What changed here?