Large Normal 234 | A Large Normal | The End

Sirius9121 · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:07 pm

Clarification: Werewolves should count as an 'Alternate Mafia'

.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:09 pm

In post 1142, Dunnstral wrote:Werewolves don't even have guns in flavor, so gunsmith doesn't make sense as a claim

Even the normal guidelines don't say anything about that.

hold on a second, but know this: you're fucking wrong.

Titus · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:09 pm

Mod: Do gunsmiths get guilty results on Werewolves in Normals?

I think the answer should be no here, but there is an argument that Werewolves would show with guns. So it's best to resolve that here.

Titus · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:09 pm

Pedit, Welp

Dunnstral · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:11 pm

In post 1148, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I also don't remember you being this visible in Cook's Mini Normal, Dunn. You were town there.

Between that game and this game, I've never voted for town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:12 pm

In post 1150, Sirius9121 wrote:
Clarification: Werewolves should count as an 'Alternate Mafia'
.

BOOYAH BITCH
I was gonna work towards pointing this out in my own way but this covers it.

Sirius9121 · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:12 pm

In post 1152, Titus wrote:
Mod: Do gunsmiths get guilty results on Werewolves in Normals?

I think the answer should be no here, but there is an argument that Werewolves would show with guns. So it's best to resolve that here.

Yes. They show as 'Has A Gun' because they are a flavoured alternate Mafia.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:13 pm

So why are you a gunsmith when the other guy is an alignment cop?

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:14 pm

In post 1154, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1148, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I also don't remember you being this visible in Cook's Mini Normal, Dunn. You were town there.
Between that game and this game, I've never voted for town

Okay. Do you have a guilty on Gamma? How are you sure this is scum? You said you had a PoE but it seems like you're full Gamma here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:15 pm

In post 1157, Dunnstral wrote:So why are you a gunsmith when the other guy is an alignment cop?

because the setup works better that way? Don't ask me, ask Sirius (or whoever pre-designed this) in post-game

Dunnstral · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:16 pm

The way they have been reacting is very scummy

The claim sealed it for me

Titus · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:17 pm

What about the claim sealed it for you? When did the claim first seal it for you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:17 pm

In post 1122, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1096, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1092, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1052, Dunnstral wrote:Based on kills, the mafia team were aiming at town for sure (and not elsa's partner)
Yo Dunn, can you explain this? How are you so sure that the mafia team were aiming at town for sure?

Ok, >I< must've gained some extra brain cells it seems.
Cesar is my new monkey name

I have my own problem with this. AD was obvtown for sure, but NDMath, not so much. So really it's just an expansion/specification of what you said but it should still be brought up. Perhaps NDMath was the kill of Dunn's team?
Why this weird appearance: it's much easier that to delete and retype after I realized I typed it in the middle of the quote. Like be grateful I can do quotes on mobile now.

okay but what does your comment have to do with my post?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:19 pm

Didn't he claim like right off the bat? So you were sealed from the start? I mean yeah he could fake and I just don't see what's necessarily so scummy about it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:21 pm

oh now I get what A50 is saying
he's addending his post to HEM

Nero Cain · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:26 pm

not gonna argue that I can read Gamma like a book or anything but I just didn't see what was so scummy about him. I saw some people say that he was defending Elsa and tried to start a CW so I reread him and eh. I mean he has some kinda pointless vanity votes while not voting Elsa and its just not very convincing to me. Lets kill Dunn.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:27 pm

In post 1114, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1094, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1025, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1020, ActionDan wrote:I'd argue nero has a chance to be a partner
b/c I didn't vote Elsa yet? b/c im pushing cyrus?
I'm going with Nero as scum last person action Dan spoke of before they died I'm also thinking gamma since they were flaged as well and that towny is also dead.
See where did I say Dan flaged you here

going back to work on my general reads I noticed this
in that post you said "I'm also thinking gamma because they were flagged as well and that towny is also dead"
outside of a vague indication that you're talking about a different townie, it reads like you're saying AD flagged (which seems to mean suspected in your lexicon) me
this could be remedied with some punctuation, Mr. Croshaw.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:28 pm

In post 1165, Nero Cain wrote:some people say that he was defending Elsa

who did?
I did try to start a CW but I don't believe I ever DEFENDED Elsa.

Titus · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:30 pm

In post 1167, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1165, Nero Cain wrote:some people say that he was defending Elsa
who did?
I did try to start a CW but I don't believe I ever DEFENDED Elsa.

Why shouldn't we consider starting a counterwagon as a defense?

Titus · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:31 pm

In post 1165, Nero Cain wrote:not gonna argue that I can read Gamma like a book or anything but I just didn't see what was so scummy about him. I saw some people say that he was defending Elsa and tried to start a CW so I reread him and eh. I mean he has some kinda pointless vanity votes while not voting Elsa and its just not very convincing to me. Lets kill Dunn.

I'm kinda meh on both wagons. I see the rationale for both, but I am unmoved by either one.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:32 pm

In post 1112, cyrus62 wrote:no you misunderstand I said Nero becuse of Dan and I was sue of gamma to becuse the towny who flagged her was also dead I didn't say Dan flagged you I pointed ndmath who did flag you.

yeah no
in your starting post there was 0 mention of NDMath, stop fucking gaslighting me

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:33 pm

In post 1168, Titus wrote:
In post 1167, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1165, Nero Cain wrote:some people say that he was defending Elsa
who did?
I did try to start a CW but I don't believe I ever DEFENDED Elsa.
Why shouldn't we consider starting a counterwagon as a defense?

I like wagons. I wanted to see what would happen if a new one was started. And while I was doing that I had given my blessing to the Elsa wagon.

Titus · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:34 pm

VOTE: cyrus62

Join me Gamma?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:37 pm

In post 1167, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1165, Nero Cain wrote:some people say that he was defending Elsa
who did?
I did try to start a CW but I don't believe I ever DEFENDED Elsa.

I thought HEM did but nope

In post 1044, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Gamma was actively trying to build a counterwagon against Elsa all day.

In post 1067, humaneatingmonkey wrote:He's read Elsa as scum all day, but has never been in the front lines of that push. He has actively tried to create a counterwagon on that with me and Almost50 but it hasn't worked out for him.

I thought I saw someone that claimed that you were defending him but this isn't an important disscussion.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:37 pm

In post 1116, Almost50 wrote:@Dunn: if it's 2 scums per then it makes sense both sides would be hunting down town early game. Like, why would mafia even want the remaining wolf out so early when they can make use of the extra kill to clip down the town?

This feels like a reasonable thought and one that I can probably infer something from. Wolves may have gone after NDMath, since AD was the clearly obvtown kill and mafia would have more reason to hunt the obvtown after voting out on of the other scum
I'll have to check this against my previous comments for internal consistency but I might actually be managing to workshop a functional NKA