1) whether or not you were genuinely reading me, my experience that game was that i believed you were town, that was townreading me -- and that translated into an instinctual "what the fuck, why can't he read me right" moment for me where i felt that you HAD read me right as town before and just weren't doing it here. it was something that was based on memory that just... wasn't true. but i was annoyed because i had the perception that you should have a basis for reading me and i find it annoying when people are like "ya scum" to me when i'm like... "what am i doing that's scummy." + i just had the same experience in forest fire before i repped outIn post 1197, Tanner wrote:okay, response to ydra wall.
first, why did you get annoyed at me? and i don't understand what the second part means. when i was scum, i wasn't townreading you. i *said* in the thread of that game that i was townreading you, because i thought that was the best path to take with you, but, uh, that was me bullshitting. i didn't have a read on you, i knew you were town. if i know someone's alignment (e.g. because they're not in the scum pt with me), my brain doesn't even parse through their posts for ai info. like, i'llIn post 1168, Ydrasse wrote:it's intentional for many reasons but the main for you is because i started off this game really annoyed at you and i thought it better to Not engage like that for everyone's benefit. that and the statement i made earlier about you not reading me correctly was based in the memory of that normal game where you were scum and townread me which like, to me was "why can't he see what he's seeing here"readthem, but i won't be getting anything from them. and sorry, that last quoted sentence completely lost me.
i think there's a difference between "everyone sounds town, what do i do" and "everyone sounds town, except conveniently these top wagons, i will not put any thought into this at all". like, it feels like the second part.In post 1168, Ydrasse wrote:but i disagree that "everyone sounds town" is a scummy mindset bc i just played a game where... like everyone basically sounded town to me and i was floundering lol.
alright. i think your take on me here is like, much more nuanced than when you were scum vs me, which is also where my scumread stemmed from your read on me sounding like extremely forced paranoia. so by that, i'd say i'm leaning town. however, you also *know* that's what i hated, so if you did roll scum against me again, i imagine you'd be much more careful about your read on me.
also, what's really REALLY worrying me is that you seem to be trying to find every excuse under the sun to not vote robert. like, something just rings extremelywrongabout you not even considering the possibility that this is scum!robert bullshitting a read on a town player that almost everyone scumreads, and instead going straight down into the "if robert is scum, then his read on nakata is tmi, therefore we should vote nakata first anyway". because, that explanation feels... counter-intuitive? to the point where it feels like a fabricated thought process meant as an excuse to not vote robert.
typing this out reminded me how earlier in the game i said that if robert flipped scum i'd deathtunnel you, and going back to check it out again, that still holds. this doesn't feel right.
so, to answer your question: my read on you is town, if we're going by the depth of your thought processes, the nuance you're showing in your read on me, etc. but uh, the actual things you're pushing are not giving me positive feelings. so i don't know, make of that what you will.
2) re robert: ...i'm just baffled as fuck by him right now more than anything because i don't understand his thought processes at all, and everything about *him* feels counter intuitive to me, like the ircher vote which i just don't know *why.* it's so... aloof? like "oh am i voting your scumbuddy" that it's hard to process. but there are things about robert that i think like.. him, turning onto his defenders, right. i feel that it's townier to do that and risk alienating them at the risk of solving correctly. or it's too much wifom for scum!robert to bother with in this game, maybe? like earlier i thought that satoru's push on him was weird and lazy and i was like "no, this shouldn't go through" because i was kind of miffed about it coming across as low effort. i wasn't seeing what people were seeing in robert but like... i'm starting to ~get it~ i guess but not to the extent where i want to vote him today. i want to vote satoru and it's not so much that i'm avoiding reasons to vote robert as *i have preferences that are not robert in satoru/infinity and would go on robert, i guess*. my read on satoru is confident where as robert i'm "ehhh".
have you said anything abt why satoru isn't a good vote today? i skimmed over your iso and uh, didn't do as much due diligence on that front but i don't understand why you don't want to go there today
