Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

[Marashu]

JamesTheNames has been Eliminated. He was a:

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

Night 1 begins and will end in (expired on 2021-07-05 12:21:14). PM me your night activities, as applicable.

[Marashu]

Psyche was killed in the night. He was a:

Spoiler:

Town Jailkeeper

Day 2 begins and will last (expired on 2021-07-12 12:22:52).

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 2.00

Diamond Aircraft DA62

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Elimination

Not Voting

(7): Val89, ClarkBar, GrandpaMo, Chuck Shurley, Roden, Nancy Drew 39, T3

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-07-12 12:22:52).

Mod notes:

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

[T3]

There's a 2/3 chance scum know my tracker claim is fake. I retract it.

[T3]

Because I didn't die the setup is probably 2 goons.

[ClarkBar]

I'm rereading. Life got busy/shitty for me late D1 and then a hammer.

[GrandpaMo]

hm... i wont say much until this one person posts.

[GrandpaMo]

ok nvm, scum should be aware. im not doc lol .

val i need ur input asap.

[GrandpaMo]

There's a 2/3 chance scum know my tracker claim is fake. I retract it.

ok i dont think t3 fakeclaims as scum here .. unless t3 is big braining and greatlly improved their scumplay from last time we played and they were scum.

[ClarkBar]

Jut some thoughts...

Nancy is town.
I am town (I know that part isn't very helpful)
T3 is very likely town.
Roden slight town lean.
Grandpa Mo I still very slight town lean. Blurry endorsing his wagon in 131 helps me with that. I don't like the end of D1 as far as they are concerned though.

Val? At least they had a vote down at the end of D1.

Chuck Shurley? No vote at all D1. Think about that: Chuck never voted. Scumreads Blurry but doesn't vote. "It was just one post" I know. But during the James/Nancy throw down (which replaced the Val/Nancy throw down) there is no input. Throws out a lot of town-reads, which I can relate to. 410 is a big post with no real takeaways. I went from painfully town to a scum lean, I guess for jumping off the Grandpa wagon, which I thought I was pretty clear about.

So initial E-1 wagon on Grandpa was purely town-driven provided Chuck is town. Even then it was a RV. Whether or not the James wagon purely town-driven is the question I guess.

I like having my vote somewhere.

VOTE: Chuck Shurley

For not voting D1, not weighing in on James at all (he only ever mentions Blurry), and not pursuing his SR of me.

[Val89]

val i need ur input asap.

Is there something specific that you want me to comment on?

I currently still think you are town, despite the fake claim. I suspect I know why you fake claimed, and if so, you know why I am asking you this question in the manner I am. I am doing a dive on something right now; unless there is something specific you want answering, I will get back to you once I have conclusions to share.

[Roden]

There's a 2/3 chance scum know my tracker claim is fake. I retract it.

It's pretty obvious you all were just trying to cover for Psyche. Who counter claims Doctor with Tracker in this set up? Lol. Psyche pretty blatantly sacrificed themself here, the counter claim sealed their fate unfortunately.

Because I didn't die the setup is probably 2 goons.

Psyche's counter claim meant they either had to be Mason, Jailer, or the true Doctor. In any of those cases, scum has to kill Psyche first in order to kill either a confirmed townie or to stop them from protecting anyone who claimed Tracker. Psyche was just the obvious kill last night.

I guess one person today would know if we have a Friendly Neighbor. And if a Tracker exists they're probably sweating bullets. Assuming two goons and one PR is probably the best way to play out today though so no one gets accidentally outed.

[GrandpaMo]

val i need ur input asap.

Is there something specific that you want me to comment on?

I currently still think you are town, despite the fake claim. I suspect I know why you fake claimed, and if so, you know why I am asking you this question in the manner I am. I am doing a dive on something right now; unless there is something specific you want answering, I will get back to you once I have conclusions to share.

ok so at first i wanted to fake claim for the exact same reason t3 did but then you told me to shutup and stuff and i rlly thought u were tryna soft a doc claim here.

so i would die at night -- then you would claim doc the next day just in case

[Roden]

look
i just thought it over real hard and decided i couldn't let james get away with such a bad claim
if he flips town then god that sucks and i accept all blame if the town loses
but in the end mafia is about having fun and i live for the thrill

James found my tracker crumb.

ok i hope this clears everything up -- im the real doctor.

and james is scum. i was tryna buddy up wit james so i can see who their partner is.

i crumbed in post 91, 49, in post 250, i wanted to use that "vc" pagetop to refer not to votecount but to the vena cava which is a popular vein found in the heart -- so yes im a doc

You're all terrible liars lol.

[Val89]

What input are you after from me, Grandpa?

Are you just fishing for PRs here, after what Roden just said in 636?

[GrandpaMo]

What input are you after from me, Grandpa?

Are you just fishing for PRs here, after what Roden just said in 636?

i explained i wanted ur input from previously of what happened.

\im solving the game.

the only possible setup is fn + jailkeeper + rolecop or just jailkeeper + 2 mafia goons

[GrandpaMo]

What input are you after from me, Grandpa?

Are you just fishing for PRs here, after what Roden just said in 636?

i hadnt even read what roden said until now

why would i be fishing for prs as scum?

when scum should pre handlely by mechanics know the setup, no?

[GrandpaMo]

For not voting D1, not weighing in on James at all (he only ever mentions Blurry), and not pursuing his SR of me.

how willing do u want an elim on chuck today and if they flip town, we condemn u

[Roden]

val i need ur input asap.

Is there something specific that you want me to comment on?

I currently still think you are town, despite the fake claim. I suspect I know why you fake claimed, and if so, you know why I am asking you this question in the manner I am. I am doing a dive on something right now; unless there is something specific you want answering, I will get back to you once I have conclusions to share.

ok so at first i wanted to fake claim for the exact same reason t3 did but then you told me to shutup and stuff and i rlly thought u were tryna soft a doc claim here.

so i would die at night -- then you would claim doc the next day just in case

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Why would Val claim Doctor on Day 2 in this scenario?

[Val89]

the only possible setup is fn + jailkeeper + rolecop or just jailkeeper + 2 mafia goons

Incorrect.

why would i be fishing for prs as scum?

So you can murder them tonight now the JK is gone, why else? You are correct the scum team now know exactly WHAT PR they are dealing with, but it isn't 100% who it is right now, no?

Like I said, I think your motivation for the fake doc claim yesterday was town, which is why I confused what motivation a town!Grandpa would have for trying to engage in this conversation right now.

[ClarkBar]

For not voting D1, not weighing in on James at all (he only ever mentions Blurry), and not pursuing his SR of me.

how willing do u want an elim on chuck today and if they flip town, we condemn u

If I were 100% on Chuck being scum I'd take you up on that. As it is I feel that slot is the best place for my vote for the reasons provided. We can debate that reasoning, and as that debate goes on how sure I am about whether or not Chuck is scum will go up or down.

[Val89]

how willing do u want an elim on chuck today and if they flip town, we condemn u

F*ck me, Grandpa, you've come out of the blocks on D2 with a bunch of posts that make it very difficult to maintain my townread on you. What makes you so certain the last scum is 100% in ClarkBar and Chuck that you would suggest this?

What are you playing at, here, exactly?

[Chuck Shurley]

VOTE: Clark

I clearly stated I still had work to do before adjusting all my reads, and the day ended before I could get back to do that.

Since my read on Blurry was correct and I've nitpicked multiple places where Clark's posts don't make sense from a town perspective, this is where I'm staying.

[Roden]

For not voting D1, not weighing in on James at all (he only ever mentions Blurry), and not pursuing his SR of me.

how willing do u want an elim on chuck today and if they flip town, we condemn u

Now I understand the page 2 wagon on you.

[GrandpaMo]

how willing do u want an elim on chuck today and if they flip town, we condemn u

F*ck me, Grandpa, you've come out of the blocks on D2 with a bunch of posts that make it very difficult to maintain my townread on you. What makes you so certain the last scum is 100% in ClarkBar and Chuck that you would suggest this?

What are you playing at, here, exactly?

ok good u knew my narrative was that scum was in chuck v clark..


look at the post right after -- just seems like an omgus. whats wrong with suggesting the last possible scum is in clark and chuck?

i townread every bit one else and lunar was someone who i scumread prior the replacement lol w