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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:42 am

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UNVOTE:

Yeah, I think Ircher definitely needs to be today’s elim.

VOTE: Ircher

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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:43 am

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I'm always of the belief that if something doesn't make sense, it's much more likely to come from town, but I admit that I don't really get the self-hammer thing from a town perspective and it could make sense from scum. I still want to hear what ircher has to say. To me, the "trying a new thing" and being much less involved in discussion reads towny to me. If scum was lazy they'd use "trying a new thing" as an excuse probably or not at all rather than saying it at the beginning of the game. This way it draws a lot of negative attention to himself. I don't think a jester is likely in this game.

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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:45 am

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I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:45 am

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I think robert is very towny, the emotion that he displayed in reaction to his votes felt very genuine. Then he attacked the people both attacking and defending him and didn't try to make it look consistent.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:46 am

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In post 1451, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm always of the belief that if something doesn't make sense, it's much more likely to come from town, but I admit that I don't really get the self-hammer thing from a town perspective and it could make sense from scum. I still want to hear what ircher has to say. To me, the "trying a new thing" and being much less involved in discussion reads towny to me. If scum was lazy they'd use "trying a new thing" as an excuse probably or not at all rather than saying it at the beginning of the game. This way it draws a lot of negative attention to himself. I don't think a jester is likely in this game.

@clidd I already explained my nakata read, is there something more you wanted me to talk about there?
But Infinity, he clearly has 0 intention of saying anything. If he did, he would have already done it don’t you think?
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:47 am

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In post 1452, Morning Tweet wrote:I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
Why not?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:48 am

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In post 1455, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1452, Morning Tweet wrote:I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
Why not?
If he has the ability to self hammer then he will do it to rob us of that information
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:49 am

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It's true, Ircher has had plenty of time to say anything. But he left at "I'll self hammer" and kept it at that.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:50 am

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It's been 2 hours. ?
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:52 am

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In post 1456, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1455, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1452, Morning Tweet wrote:I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
Why not?
If he has the ability to self hammer then he will do it to rob us of that information
He isn’t going to give us any information regardless. I think that’s been really beyond obvious.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:57 am

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In post 1459, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1456, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1455, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1452, Morning Tweet wrote:I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
Why not?
If he has the ability to self hammer then he will do it to rob us of that information
He isn’t going to give us any information regardless. I think that’s been really beyond obvious.
No I mean Yin's information. Yin comes at midnight and I want to hear what he says before we kill Ircher.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:58 am

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In post 1458, Infinity 324 wrote:It's been 2 hours. ?
He's been online the whole time ??? He also hasn't said jack about why he wants to self hammer, or anything.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:58 am

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In post 1353, Ircher wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 977, Satoru Nakata wrote:VOTE: ircher

Nakata thinks this is the best option of the players being talked about.
In post 1149, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Ircher
In post 1174, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: Ircher

Dont ask me why i keep creating entire new posts for votes this game i'm forgetting how to play or something >.>

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In post 1184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:carry tweet is here so i can sheep yusssss

VOTE: ircher

E-2?
In post 1188, Robert M Hunter wrote:I have to agree with the Ircher wagon. I wouldn't call it trolling like some others did, but he seems to flutter above the game in trying to avoid sinking into it.

VOTE: Ircher
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In post 1326, pj harvey dent wrote:
Votecount 1.16


[5] Ircher:
Satoru Nakata, NorwegianboyEE, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter
[4] Satoru Nakata:
Infinity 324, Ydrasse, Chara, clidd
[1] Robert M Hunter:
Tanner

[3] Not Voting:
Ircher, Amy Dunne, Flea The Magician

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20).


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VOTE: Ircher

E-1

I understand that Ydrasse thinks he’s playing differently here but he is basically not playing and he’s only asking NPA’s pointless questions.

That’s pretty what I did in Anomals uPick. I don’t think anyone here besides of course Pooky was in that game.

Also, him saying that something as hardwired into my meta as genuineness would be “easy” for me to fake is ridiculous. Had he instead said not impossible, that probably wouldn’t have pinged me but it read as subtle shade to me without him actually sr me, so that also really pinged me.
So going back to this, I think the first three votes are town and the last three contain 1-2 scum.
In post 1364, clidd wrote: can apply to Ircher as well (if he wants to live).
I may or may not answer some assuming I live long enough to actually look at it in detail.
In post 1396, NorwegianboyEE wrote:UNVOTE:

@ircher

Vote me.
Prove you have a vote.
I could but I'm not.
In post 1414, NorwegianboyEE wrote:There just seems to be something really fucky about Ircher's play, and i'm brainstorming the possibilities.
Theory A: He's an vengeful that wanted people to vote him so he could kill who he reads as scum.
Theory B: He's mafia that's just playing really weird and suboptimally.
Theory C: He's an mafia town PR enabler who dying would be beneficial for scum.
Theory D: He's an jester and he can't place an vote, explaining his weird behaviour, lack of focus on scum hunting, only voting for an NPC to hide that he can't vote. Etc.
Sadly none of these theories are correct.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:00 am

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Ircher why won't you tell us what's influencing your play?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:02 am

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In post 1460, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1459, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1456, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1455, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1452, Morning Tweet wrote:I would like to see what Yin says at midnight

If you believe Ircher is anti town I don't think you should put him at X-1 yet
Why not?
If he has the ability to self hammer then he will do it to rob us of that information
He isn’t going to give us any information regardless. I think that’s been really beyond obvious.
No I mean Yin's information. Yin comes at midnight and I want to hear what he says before we kill Ircher.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:03 am

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it feels like you just want to be limmed, Ircher.

did he have an opportunity to self-hammer already and didn't take it?
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:04 am

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also i think Norwee'a theory that Ircher just can't vote or his vote does something funky is correct.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 1462, Ircher wrote:So going back to this, I think the first three votes are town and the last three contain 1-2 scum.
why do you think this?
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 1465, Chara wrote:it feels like you just want to be limmed, Ircher.

did he have an opportunity to self-hammer already and didn't take it?
Twice, I put him to E -1 twice now. He threatened to self-hammer but didn’t, so I guess Tweetie’s right about it being wifom.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:08 am

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In post 1466, Chara wrote:also i think Norwee'a theory that Ircher just can't vote or his vote does something funky is correct.
His only vote the entire game has been on Yin, so I’m leaning can’t vote.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:11 am

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In post 1462, Ircher wrote:
In post 1353, Ircher wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 977, Satoru Nakata wrote:VOTE: ircher

Nakata thinks this is the best option of the players being talked about.
In post 1149, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Ircher
In post 1174, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: Ircher

Dont ask me why i keep creating entire new posts for votes this game i'm forgetting how to play or something >.>

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In post 1184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:carry tweet is here so i can sheep yusssss

VOTE: ircher

E-2?
In post 1188, Robert M Hunter wrote:I have to agree with the Ircher wagon. I wouldn't call it trolling like some others did, but he seems to flutter above the game in trying to avoid sinking into it.

VOTE: Ircher
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In post 1326, pj harvey dent wrote:
Votecount 1.16


[5] Ircher:
Satoru Nakata, NorwegianboyEE, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter
[4] Satoru Nakata:
Infinity 324, Ydrasse, Chara, clidd
[1] Robert M Hunter:
Tanner

[3] Not Voting:
Ircher, Amy Dunne, Flea The Magician

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20).


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VOTE: Ircher

E-1

I understand that Ydrasse thinks he’s playing differently here but he is basically not playing and he’s only asking NPA’s pointless questions.

That’s pretty what I did in Anomals uPick. I don’t think anyone here besides of course Pooky was in that game.

Also, him saying that something as hardwired into my meta as genuineness would be “easy” for me to fake is ridiculous. Had he instead said not impossible, that probably wouldn’t have pinged me but it read as subtle shade to me without him actually sr me, so that also really pinged me.
So going back to this, I think the first three votes are town and the last three contain 1-2 scum.
In post 1364, clidd wrote: can apply to Ircher as well (if he wants to live).
I may or may not answer some assuming I live long enough to actually look at it in detail.
In post 1396, NorwegianboyEE wrote:UNVOTE:

@ircher

Vote me.
Prove you have a vote.
I could but I'm not.
In post 1414, NorwegianboyEE wrote:There just seems to be something really fucky about Ircher's play, and i'm brainstorming the possibilities.
Theory A: He's an vengeful that wanted people to vote him so he could kill who he reads as scum.
Theory B: He's mafia that's just playing really weird and suboptimally.
Theory C: He's an mafia town PR enabler who dying would be beneficial for scum.
Theory D: He's an jester and he can't place an vote, explaining his weird behaviour, lack of focus on scum hunting, only voting for an NPC to hide that he can't vote. Etc.
Sadly none of these theories are correct.
If you can vote, vote anyone who isn’t a NPA.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:12 am

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In post 1468, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1465, Chara wrote:it feels like you just want to be limmed, Ircher.

did he have an opportunity to self-hammer already and didn't take it?
Twice, I put him to E -1 twice now. He threatened to self-hammer but didn’t, so I guess Tweetie’s right about it being wifom.
if this is the case i'm less worried about going through with the elimination, but there's the possibility he can't vote himself and is hoping others will for him out of impatience?

i don't know anything about the mechanical weirdness of Silent Star games or if this would have anything to do with how Ircher playing. i'd trust Ydrasse on if Hectic likes to use jesters or not, but that's all i can think of right now.
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i'm curious, what does NPA stand for? non-player...... i'm not sure.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:12 am

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Or if it does something bad, tell us why.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:13 am

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has anyone asked Yin about Ircher yet? i could use my question since we're waiting anyway. i'm not sure it'll help but might as well.
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