Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

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[3] Ircher:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Robert M Hunter, NorwegianboyEE

[2] Infinity 324:

Tanner, clidd

[2] Satoru Nakata:

Infinity 324, Chara

[1] Morning Tweet:

Satoru Nakata

[5] Not Voting:

Ircher, Flea The Magician, Morning Tweet, Ydrasse, Amy Dunne

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-07 18:10:20).

Joint moderator ISO.

[Yang]

- Hi.

+ Hi

[Yang]

@Yang

Do you prefer town or some other faction to win the game?
Does it matter to you or are you bound by some form of contract?

I would personally prefer it if either town or some other faction won the game. I hate draws. Hectic might like them, I don't know, but I've always hated them. This hatred matters to me. When I was about ten I traveled across the country for a chess tournament that I had qualified for, because after playing very little rated chess play I had managed to never lose any games and my rating was somehow high enough to qualify. In the first round I was like wow each player gets a 90 minute chess clock. That is so much time. I spent so much time on each of my moves. So did my opponent. It got down to where each of us had 30 minutes left for each of us, then we reached an endgame that was something like two minor pieces against one minor piece, I can't remember how many rooks each player had but queens were definitely gone and I wasn't up more than a minor piece. And my opponent started moving his pawns to block rather than go after any of my pieces and I was like, ok, I just tried to keep the pawns from promoting. Then my opponent offered me a draw and said that after 50 king moves the game would automatically become a draw. I said I'd never heard of it. I asked what my incentive was to agree to a draw if the rules would trigger one anyway and none was offered beyond some kind of symbolism of a handshake draw rather than a mechanical draw. So instead I just moved a piece and then the judges were called on the 50th king move and the judges reviewed the move history and said the 50 king move rule is a real thing but pawn moves and captures reset the 50, and there were a bunch of pawn moves in the last 50 moves and a capture like 40 moves ago so it wasn't close to being triggered. Then we kept playing and I beat his ass.

[Yang]

Yin, is Morning Tweet informed?

Yang, is Morning Tweet informed?

You asked me second, this is an outrage

[Yang]

Hi yang

hi

[clidd]

I've been thinking about the possible mechanical anomalies that might exist (after seeing the description of previous editions), but at the moment I don't see any strong evidence that such a thing exists (although it's historically likely, as this would hardly be a conventional game). Given the lack of information, however, there is little choice but to deal with these factors as they appear.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I beat his ass.

this is the most important part

no mercy

COBRA KAAAAAI

[clidd]

I'm also still having trouble understanding what the scum plan would look like (assuming that they have one).

Independently, the discussions have been good and the gamestate is likely to take a more optimistic turn towards game-solving once the weird/scummy slots are out.

[clidd]

Regarding Ircher, I really have no idea what's going on with him, but the conclusion "scum!Ircher" doesn't seem so clear to me, although I agree with his elimination given the lack of cooperation/doubtful motivation (Nakata seems to me more scummy comparatively).

[clidd]

But yeah, an Ircher elim is way better.

[clidd]

Unless something extraordinary happens in his posting that comes across as extremely towny, of course.

[clidd]

I need to ask some specific questions for Infinity, but I didn't feel any malicious intent in the way she's been approaching the game. She's still reserved compared to my experience with town!she, but no scumping on her last set of posts. So, fine. Not super towny or transparent, but fine.

[clidd]

Which means: UNVOTE: Infinity 324

[clidd]

@Pooky

You can select three (or two if you have no energy at all) questions from the questionnaire to answer, the order is not important but the insight in your reasoning is.

[clidd]

@Flea

What's your read on Ircher/Nakata/Robert?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Pooky

You can select three (or two if you have no energy at all) questions from the questionnaire to answer, the order is not important but the insight in your reasoning is.

just tell me which questions you actually care about

[clidd]

I care about all of them.

[clidd]

I wouldn't ask you something for no reason, Pooky.

[clidd]

I'm also trying to adapt to your conditions.

But if that's the case, you can focus on Chara first (questions about her).

[clidd]

Correction: About it*

[clidd]

@Yin

1290

[clidd]

Yang

- What advice could you give me regarding the game?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Chara is an incredibly pleasant and nice person that is a joy to play with.

Chara writes a lot but when you sit down and read through it all, it just feels too nice?

Like from my experience playing with Scum!Chara in Cats v Dogs, Chara is very good at getting townread.

Who would ever want to kill Chara? Chara is such a nice person and so wholesome.

From my experience playing with Scum!Chara in that mini normal a while back, Chara feels pretty low energy and less committed.

Anyway I told this to Chara in our scum PT for Cats V Dogs and Chara over-corrected to the point where Chara got NK'd for seeming too town I guess? :<

I like the thoughts Chara has, but they're kind of almost written to be liked? Chara's scum game is really really good.

Now back to the Public Masonry Blowup Thingamajig.

When Yin told me there was 1 scumbag in the public masonry, my first thought was that if this was true then it's just Chara cuz Norwee feels v v town to me.

I dunno if Yin tells us the truth or what rules he operates by but I figured might as well slap a vote on that and see what happens.

Chara's initial reaction was:

"i really don't like Pooky trusting Yin's word on there being scum in that group, there is no evidence he's being truthful with his other answers and it's a super convenient way to put a vote down on me after townreading me."

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Let's break this reply down.


1. I don't think I really expressed a townread on Chara. Inviting someone to a public masonry is more of a joke to be honest.

2. Why does Chara think Scum!Pooky would decide to townread Chara and then use some nonsense reason to vote Chara? That's not very logical or smart to do, I can just make up some BS reason to vote Chara if I wanted to push Chara or like not townread Chara to begin with...

3. If Yin is lying, then Pooky/Norwee/Chara are all town, so how does it make sense to doubt both Yin and Pooky at the same time? It should be one or the other.


The way Chara reacts to it feels very nonconfrontational, like it wants to avoid open conflict with me, which makes sense because I'm an absolute savage at 1v1s and more savage when I'm town than when I'm scum. I don't think Chara would want to get into a poo-flinging contest with me, which feels like more of a scum feeling than a town feeling, because when you're town you kind of have to fling the poo to beat down the baddies but when you're a baddie you can kind of just dodge the poo flinging townie and shoot them at night.

Chara finally votes me a couple of posts later and even that is kind of like a fairly weak vote.

All this passivity could just be because Chara is a good person who doesn't enjoy poo flinging though so I kind of want to see more before I'm like "this person is defscum" or w/e

[clidd]

Nakata thinks that if he’s right that Morning Tweet is scum then NorwegianboyEE is a likely partner for the way he’s chainsawing Nakata for trying to put the spotlight on Morning Tweet.

Nakata thinks Morning Tweet here looks a lot like Morning Tweet in Royslty!

Could you quote one post from Morning that reflects you as the most scummy in her iso?

And why is Norwegian a scumpartner for defending Morning instead of town that is defending a strong townread?

pedit: Nice.

[clidd]

Good read, I sympathize with your analysis.

It's enough for now, but if you have some time the next questions are 20, 21 and 22 (Ydrasse).