Newbie 2071: The Sandwich Debate - End!

[Beesechurger]

Posting here to avoid being replaced
Now to read everything I missed. Man this is gonna be painful.

[The Bulge]

Then if you aren't going to positively help town you don't mind being the Day 1 hammer right?

this is a good james post to trash on, i doubt he's being jokey here, even though there's ample reason to be

tell me about the weird history between you two

Meta and past is irrelevant. I have ample posts for you to scum read me or town read me on, and overall there are ample posts for me to develop reads.

your scumread on T3 is laced with the aroma of meta and context would make me a happy person
you can't churn out stuff like 177, 178 and act like you don't have anything to offer in the 'past' department

i already have my reads on most of the people here laid out, you having yours handy would be sick

ample ample ample ample

You're going to have to remind me when I openly claimed to scum ream T3.
Not to mention if you have to use what happened in a previous game to denounce something brought up from said game, so be it. He voted me with no justification, I don't think you actually read the full thing so I'll explain it for you.
T3 claims if someone is scummy and they usually aren't you should hammer them. They then proceed to vote me. 177 178 and 185 explain how is vote is nonsense. You'll have to tell me how that is me having something "to offer in the 'past' department".

goodposting here from sushi. dont like how the first line of this post from james shirks any liability for what is obviously him scumleaning T3.

[The Bulge]

Its NAI cuz I dont think scum posts smth like that early into the game. Likewise, theres no reason for any VT to claim their role d1 so its not something town should do, so imo its NAI

...how is this not the same thing as 'tstbs' tho? you're saying you don't think scum would post something anti-town so early, which is the exact same thought process as tstbs.

because its full null, I also think town has 0 reason to do this. This is different than tstbs, because if u think they're "tstsbs" you SR them in some sort already which I didnt do

'tstbs' implies a townread.

Oh yeah Grandpa is locktown.

ok yea im not fucking taking chances here last time u did this u pocketed me

VOTE: t3

*this is like a half meme/half serious vote*

Okay so since this is a "semi-serious" vote, u better be ACTUALLY pushing it smfh. Dont just leave your vote there as a chance to bw/sheep others. Also how many votes is that on t3 rn? 3? like wtf is going on lmao

theres been 3 votes on t3? holy fuck where have i been

ok well not 3 votes, but 3 ppl are currently pushing this slot(cows,you and VFP), still super ???

I dont understand what the big deal here is? what is so shocking to you about a wagon of 3?

[The Bulge]

So Hockey is probably town.

why is that?

also is there any particular reason you've been so absent/reserved this game?

[JamesTheNames]

goodposting here from sushi. dont like how the first line of this post from james shirks any liability for what is obviously him scumleaning T3.

I'm impressed you clearly know the intention behind something I did more than I do.
First of all, 268 has occured which you clearly ignored considering you understand things I do so well.
Not doing something townie and not doing anything scummy makes you Null, hence why I've asked people to explain why the read T3 either way throughout this game.
He just purely isn't trying to play the game.

Too Town To Be Town?

T3 giv me ur reads rn

James is probably town but I can't say why.
Bulge is a tr. I'll metadive him at some point becauseI'm slightly paranoid.
You're vibes towny.

Everyone else I forgot about or is null.

[GrandpaMo]

Spoiler: Hockey's post 298 for full context

Weak Scum:

Gpa
VFP

u and cows both have me paired with vfp and t3 , the two ppl i wanna vote xD

when did i say u 2 were paired. You both being in my scum list indicates that i think you both are scummy indivually, not in pairs, no need to assume things

I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant lol. why do u care who cows is pushing more.

"drop this convo" proceeds to talk about it right after.

Where?

and i care because you are manipulating the context it was in lol

I really wanst but ok who cares

u say that they have been pushing t3 more but i say because of a vote, that they scumread me more. its no longer rvs -- its you being hypoicrtical where you complained to me about not having a serious vote then proceed to imply that cow's vote isn't serious because they "pushed" t3 more.

No comment, this topic is dumb

you also bring more ad homenim and hostility and attack my vote pool but the people i wanna vote out are the people that you + cows are scumreading

Why is it relevant to this convo who cows is Sr'ing? Me and cows are not the same people. Cows did not call your vote pool bad, I did

so what's wrong with my vote pool?

yea so, just because we have simillar thoughts on VFP doesnt make your vote pool good. I dont agree with your other vote pool in T3/Rocky

i have read you as town but if you keep up with the passive aggressive tone and not thinking before you post and continue to have logical inconsistencies, i might have to vote you here.

when did i say u 2 were paired. You both being in my scum list indicates that i think you both are scummy indivually, not in pairs, no need to assume things

You had me and VFP in the same scum pool. By paired, if you look at the context, I was referring how you were scumreading the person who I was scumreading as well or had a POE vote on, we are alligned or "paired" in the context of your reads. I still stand by this. Now, bringing up that we could be scumpartners is a different topic and a more hard analysis to hit on, this is where you need to look at day 1 interactions, who townread who, who scumread who, who got pocketed (if scum flip), who was on wagon (if town flip), and etc.

Where?

I don't know if you are trolling or what, but I clearly explain where. If you want to take look at the full context, this is what you said below.

"didnt know voting someone is "pushing" them. In fact cows even labelled the vote as "stirring" the pot. I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant lol. why do u care who cows is pushing more."

You said I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant, however still decide to say "why do you care who cows is pushing more." right after, it feels like you already knew the answer to this, I don't know why this was a question in the first place. You said you wanted to drop the convo, but bring up a question that goes back to the topic discussed just prior. And you continue this conversation by asking me a question, with an obvious answer.

I really wanst but ok who cares

You have and continue to do so. Refer to a later quote that I bring up the word manipulative in. You decide not to speak on anything and continue to find ways to ignore my questions for example, this quote here. In post 284, you ask me the question why do you care who cows is pushing more. I give you the answer that you are manipulating the context (either with intention or unintentionally). Then you proceed to say in your defense, "I really wasn't but okay who cares" Basically saying no, then repeating the question by saying "who cares" when I clearly told you "I care" in post 288 . This is another attempt at you manipulating the context for which it is in.

No comment, this topic is dumb

This is another attempt at you withholding info -- either in a scum mindset or anti-town mindset regardless. If you feel like the topic is dumb, then explain to me why it is dumb, why to proceed calling it dumb to have nothing to say then invoke a provocative statement that will provoke a reaction? Let's analyze this further. I explain to you how you were being hypocritical, and provide my reasoning, I also explain what you said and how I justify with my concern on what cow's votes mean, specifically the vote on me. I will explain again. A vote is a vote, no longer RVS. In post 293, cows proceeds to say "also, by stirring the pot i mean deliberately taking a side so i can learn more about my poggers top scumreads" -- this implies that their vote was a serious vote and for the reason to know more info about me knowing that I am scum already in their perspective. This contradicts your whole narative.

Why is it relevant to this convo who cows is Sr'ing? Me and cows are not the same people. Cows did not call your vote pool bad, I did

This is probably the only good post you had from this bad wall post.

To answer your question, it is because you started to bring up cows only after I question the votes on T3. You proceed to say "not 3 votes, but 3 people who are pushing, cows, me, and vfp" Then I proceed to say, wrong! Cows is pushing me! Then you respond to two things in my post 277 . You respond the cows statement, and a statement on my vote pool implying it's weird. Then I respond explaining that they are voting me. And you refute. Then I proceed to give you an example with what I said to cows. Then I ask cows for the explanation since you, Hockey, never decide to ask cows and just assume that cows is literally talking about what you are and haven't seen what has been going around with me. (which also points to another point of you being hypocritical, that you called me out for assumption). Then convo ends there because I leave.

So to look at this at the full context, it is relevant to this convo because you had provided a misunderstanding on a narrative that was supporting your scumread on me which is me initially voting T3, then you getting offended with 3 votes on them. Then I explain how cows is voting me and scumread me more due to this so it would only be me and VFP on T3 and cows and you hockey on me. That is why it is relevant because you portray me in a bad and manipulative manner due to this. Also the vote pool thing is completely irrelevant, I don't know why that comment was necessary, however since we are talking about that I do want to touch on that slightly. This brings us to the next quote.

Also, nevermind, this isn't a good quote, reading back it also looked like you cherrypicked a few things.

yea so, just because we have simillar thoughts on VFP doesnt make your vote pool good. I dont agree with your other vote pool in T3/Rocky

You decide to be surprised with my vote pool but later on agree and admit that we may have similar thoughts on VFP. (post 298). So wouldn't we both be capable to lim VFP here? but disagree with my take on T3/rocky. What's wrong with it? You still haven't answered my question I initially asked in 288. Just because you disagree with my vote pool, that doesn't require an input from you saying "What is this vote pool lol"

I make this a clear point and bring cows into question because, look, cows has me and T3 as scum and you have me and VFP as scum. And my vote pool is T3 and VFP (+ rocky), but the point is what's it being different if cows wanted to lim T3? It just felt like you were using this as another way to find me as "scum" with your passive aggressive tone which I don't understand WHY you would in the first place.

Conclusion:

This post frustrated me, not only because it was so manipulative but because I actually townread you hockey. And having this response from you is weird. I was bias earlier in townreading you because I have played with you and you are a friend, but not all friends are the same allignment. I do now want to think you are scum.

I am null - scumleaning you now. And feel like you still have town equity only if someone else or you can convince me otherwise.

I am playing how I usually as town, I also advise you to stop, and reread the game if you are town. Look at my previous scum games, and my town games see why I say what I say as scum, then come to it from a town perspective, why I say what I say as town. Many newbs, like you, just easily use me as liable scum target day 1 and even town will scumread me because I am usually incomprehendable to newbs on the first time. But you are a good player, hockey, and I don't want you costing a lim because you have confbias as town.

I will unvote for now.

UNVOTE:

[VFP]

Cam you do a shorter conclusion to your conclusion?

[GrandpaMo]

So Hockey is probably town.

why is that?

also is there any particular reason you've been so absent/reserved this game?

Can you answer this question @VFP?

[VFP]

Gut and because I'm ill.

[GrandpaMo]

Gut and because I'm ill.

What happened?

[T3]

*punches wall of text*

[VFP]

I mean gut feeling.

ill wise just a virus. I've barely been on site wide.

[GrandpaMo]

I mean gut feeling.

ill wise just a virus. I've barely been on site wide.

Okay gotcha.

Hope you feel better.

I wouldn't mind you replacing to get better and focus on your health etc.

[HockeyFan]

Response to Grandpa's wallpost

Spoiler:

when did i say u 2 were paired. You both being in my scum list indicates that i think you both are scummy indivually, not in pairs, no need to assume things

You had me and VFP in the same scum pool. By paired, if you look at the context, I was referring how you were scumreading the person who I was scumreading as well or had a POE vote on, we are alligned or "paired" in the context of your reads. I still stand by this. Now, bringing up that we could be scumpartners is a different topic and a more hard analysis to hit on, this is where you need to look at day 1 interactions, who townread who, who scumread who, who got pocketed (if scum flip), who was on wagon (if town flip), and etc.

Okay. You could have just misintreprted the context of my reads and thats fine, but I think when I say you 2 are

indivually scummy

, I mean that. Your push on VFP did not have an effect on my VFP read. I will admit it was a bit weird for one of my

indivually scummy

person was pushing the other, but I didnt think of much of it

Where?

I don't know if you are trolling or what, but I clearly explain where. If you want to take look at the full context, this is what you said below.

"didnt know voting someone is "pushing" them. In fact cows even labelled the vote as "stirring" the pot. I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant lol. why do u care who cows is pushing more."

You said I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant, however still decide to say "why do you care who cows is pushing more." right after, it feels like you already knew the answer to this, I don't know why this was a question in the first place. You said you wanted to drop the convo, but bring up a question that goes back to the topic discussed just prior. And you continue this conversation by asking me a question, with an obvious answer.

Alright im sorry but you are nitpicking here. You said I didnt drop the convo because I didnt stop it at that specific word like what? I was going to drop it AFTER that post

I really wanst but ok who cares

You have and continue to do so. Refer to a later quote that I bring up the word manipulative in. You decide not to speak on anything and continue to find ways to ignore my questions for example, this quote here. In post 284, you ask me the question why do you care who cows is pushing more. I give you the answer that you are manipulating the context (either with intention or unintentionally). Then you proceed to say in your defense, "I really wasn't but okay who cares" Basically saying no, then repeating the question by saying "who cares" when I clearly told you "I care" in post 288 . This is another attempt at you manipulating the context for which it is in.

To answer your question, its because I didnt agree with it and your reasoning was smth wack? Like you wanted T3 because they were "pocketing u" and u wanted Rocky because they werent posting anything useful but maybe you could have interacted with them more like "hey rocky what are your reads(this is what u did with T3 but not rocky which is ??)" instead of immediately voting them

No comment, this topic is dumb

This is another attempt at you withholding info -- either in a scum mindset or anti-town mindset regardless. If you feel like the topic is dumb, then explain to me why it is dumb, why to proceed calling it dumb to have nothing to say then invoke a provocative statement that will provoke a reaction? Let's analyze this further. I explain to you how you were being hypocritical, and provide my reasoning, I also explain what you said and how I justify with my concern on what cow's votes mean, specifically the vote on me. I will explain again. A vote is a vote, no longer RVS. In post 293, cows proceeds to say "also, by stirring the pot i mean deliberately taking a side so i can learn more about my poggers top scumreads" -- this implies that their vote was a serious vote and for the reason to know more info about me knowing that I am scum already in their perspective. This contradicts your whole narative.

Its dumb because we are arguing about what another persons intentions were. They can explain it themselves or we can just move on because we arent mind readers all of a sudden. Its weird you tried to accuse me of "withholding info" when I dont have any info on this topic since I cant read cows mind

Why is it relevant to this convo who cows is Sr'ing? Me and cows are not the same people. Cows did not call your vote pool bad, I did

This is probably the only good post you had from this bad wall post.

To answer your question, it is because you started to bring up cows only after I question the votes on T3. You proceed to say "not 3 votes, but 3 people who are pushing, cows, me, and vfp" Then I proceed to say, wrong! Cows is pushing me! Then you respond to two things in my post 277 . You respond the cows statement, and a statement on my vote pool implying it's weird. Then I respond explaining that they are voting me. And you refute. Then I proceed to give you an example with what I said to cows. Then I ask cows for the explanation since you, Hockey, never decide to ask cows and just assume that cows is literally talking about what you are and haven't seen what has been going around with me. (which also points to another point of you being hypocritical, that you called me out for assumption). Then convo ends there because I leave.

So to look at this at the full context, it is relevant to this convo because you had provided a misunderstanding on a narrative that was supporting your scumread on me which is me initially voting T3, then you getting offended with 3 votes on them. Then I explain how cows is voting me and scumread me more due to this so it would only be me and VFP on T3 and cows and you hockey on me. That is why it is relevant because you portray me in a bad and manipulative manner due to this. Also the vote pool thing is completely irrelevant, I don't know why that comment was necessary, however since we are talking about that I do want to touch on that slightly. This brings us to the next quote.

Also, nevermind, this isn't a good quote, reading back it also looked like you cherrypicked a few things.

Cows can have more than 1 push at a time. Also im not being manipvulate, we are just misinterpreting each others posts every single time which means this is probably TVT and I want it to end there because this has been dragged on too long(do not nitpick this saying "omg u talked about this after this EXACT word when u said you were done with it")

yea so, just because we have simillar thoughts on VFP doesnt make your vote pool good. I dont agree with your other vote pool in T3/Rocky

You decide to be surprised with my vote pool but later on agree and admit that we may have similar thoughts on VFP. (post 298). So wouldn't we both be capable to lim VFP here? but disagree with my take on T3/rocky. What's wrong with it? You still haven't answered my question I initially asked in 288. Just because you disagree with my vote pool, that doesn't require an input from you saying "What is this vote pool lol"

You were one of my Sr's at the time so I wanted to get reasoning from u. We could both be capable to lim VFP here but before i wrote this post, idk how I felt about me wanting to vote one of my sr's sr's

I make this a clear point and bring cows into question because, look, cows has me and T3 as scum and you have me and VFP as scum. And my vote pool is T3 and VFP (+ rocky), but the point is what's it being different if cows wanted to lim T3? It just felt like you were using this as another way to find me as "scum" with your passive aggressive tone which I don't understand WHY you would in the first place.

Conclusion:

This post frustrated me, not only because it was so manipulative but because I actually townread you hockey. And having this response from you is weird. I was bias earlier in townreading you because I have played with you and you are a friend, but not all friends are the same allignment. I do now want to think you are scum.

I am null - scumleaning you now. And feel like you still have town equity only if someone else or you can convince me otherwise.

I am playing how I usually as town, I also advise you to stop, and reread the game if you are town. Look at my previous scum games, and my town games see why I say what I say as scum, then come to it from a town perspective, why I say what I say as town. Many newbs, like you, just easily use me as liable scum target day 1 and even town will scumread me because I am usually incomprehendable to newbs on the first time. But you are a good player, hockey, and I don't want you costing a lim because you have confbias as town.

I will unvote for now.

UNVOTE: [/quote]

[HockeyFan]

Its NAI cuz I dont think scum posts smth like that early into the game. Likewise, theres no reason for any VT to claim their role d1 so its not something town should do, so imo its NAI

...how is this not the same thing as 'tstbs' tho? you're saying you don't think scum would post something anti-town so early, which is the exact same thought process as tstbs.

because its full null, I also think town has 0 reason to do this. This is different than tstbs, because if u think they're "tstsbs" you SR them in some sort already which I didnt do

'tstbs' implies a townread.

Once again, I never said "tstbs"

Oh yeah Grandpa is locktown.

ok yea im not fucking taking chances here last time u did this u pocketed me

VOTE: t3

*this is like a half meme/half serious vote*

Okay so since this is a "semi-serious" vote, u better be ACTUALLY pushing it smfh. Dont just leave your vote there as a chance to bw/sheep others. Also how many votes is that on t3 rn? 3? like wtf is going on lmao

theres been 3 votes on t3? holy fuck where have i been

ok well not 3 votes, but 3 ppl are currently pushing this slot(cows,you and VFP), still super ???

I dont understand what the big deal here is? what is so shocking to you about a wagon of 3?

That early into the game is shocking especally when T3 hadnt done anything scummy in eyes

[T3]

Response to Grandpa's wallpost

Spoiler:

when did i say u 2 were paired. You both being in my scum list indicates that i think you both are scummy indivually, not in pairs, no need to assume things

You had me and VFP in the same scum pool. By paired, if you look at the context, I was referring how you were scumreading the person who I was scumreading as well or had a POE vote on, we are alligned or "paired" in the context of your reads. I still stand by this. Now, bringing up that we could be scumpartners is a different topic and a more hard analysis to hit on, this is where you need to look at day 1 interactions, who townread who, who scumread who, who got pocketed (if scum flip), who was on wagon (if town flip), and etc.

Okay. You could have just misintreprted the context of my reads and thats fine, but I think when I say you 2 are

indivually scummy

, I mean that. Your push on VFP did not have an effect on my VFP read. I will admit it was a bit weird for one of my

indivually scummy

person was pushing the other, but I didnt think of much of it

Where?

I don't know if you are trolling or what, but I clearly explain where. If you want to take look at the full context, this is what you said below.

"didnt know voting someone is "pushing" them. In fact cows even labelled the vote as "stirring" the pot. I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant lol. why do u care who cows is pushing more."

You said I am just gonna drop this convo as its irrelevant, however still decide to say "why do you care who cows is pushing more." right after, it feels like you already knew the answer to this, I don't know why this was a question in the first place. You said you wanted to drop the convo, but bring up a question that goes back to the topic discussed just prior. And you continue this conversation by asking me a question, with an obvious answer.

Alright im sorry but you are nitpicking here. You said I didnt drop the convo because I didnt stop it at that specific word like what? I was going to drop it AFTER that post

I really wanst but ok who cares

You have and continue to do so. Refer to a later quote that I bring up the word manipulative in. You decide not to speak on anything and continue to find ways to ignore my questions for example, this quote here. In post 284, you ask me the question why do you care who cows is pushing more. I give you the answer that you are manipulating the context (either with intention or unintentionally). Then you proceed to say in your defense, "I really wasn't but okay who cares" Basically saying no, then repeating the question by saying "who cares" when I clearly told you "I care" in post 288 . This is another attempt at you manipulating the context for which it is in.

To answer your question, its because I didnt agree with it and your reasoning was smth wack? Like you wanted T3 because they were "pocketing u" and u wanted Rocky because they werent posting anything useful but maybe you could have interacted with them more like "hey rocky what are your reads(this is what u did with T3 but not rocky which is ??)" instead of immediately voting them

No comment, this topic is dumb

This is another attempt at you withholding info -- either in a scum mindset or anti-town mindset regardless. If you feel like the topic is dumb, then explain to me why it is dumb, why to proceed calling it dumb to have nothing to say then invoke a provocative statement that will provoke a reaction? Let's analyze this further. I explain to you how you were being hypocritical, and provide my reasoning, I also explain what you said and how I justify with my concern on what cow's votes mean, specifically the vote on me. I will explain again. A vote is a vote, no longer RVS. In post 293, cows proceeds to say "also, by stirring the pot i mean deliberately taking a side so i can learn more about my poggers top scumreads" -- this implies that their vote was a serious vote and for the reason to know more info about me knowing that I am scum already in their perspective. This contradicts your whole narative.

Its dumb because we are arguing about what another persons intentions were. They can explain it themselves or we can just move on because we arent mind readers all of a sudden. Its weird you tried to accuse me of "withholding info" when I dont have any info on this topic since I cant read cows mind

Why is it relevant to this convo who cows is Sr'ing? Me and cows are not the same people. Cows did not call your vote pool bad, I did

This is probably the only good post you had from this bad wall post.

To answer your question, it is because you started to bring up cows only after I question the votes on T3. You proceed to say "not 3 votes, but 3 people who are pushing, cows, me, and vfp" Then I proceed to say, wrong! Cows is pushing me! Then you respond to two things in my post 277 . You respond the cows statement, and a statement on my vote pool implying it's weird. Then I respond explaining that they are voting me. And you refute. Then I proceed to give you an example with what I said to cows. Then I ask cows for the explanation since you, Hockey, never decide to ask cows and just assume that cows is literally talking about what you are and haven't seen what has been going around with me. (which also points to another point of you being hypocritical, that you called me out for assumption). Then convo ends there because I leave.

So to look at this at the full context, it is relevant to this convo because you had provided a misunderstanding on a narrative that was supporting your scumread on me which is me initially voting T3, then you getting offended with 3 votes on them. Then I explain how cows is voting me and scumread me more due to this so it would only be me and VFP on T3 and cows and you hockey on me. That is why it is relevant because you portray me in a bad and manipulative manner due to this. Also the vote pool thing is completely irrelevant, I don't know why that comment was necessary, however since we are talking about that I do want to touch on that slightly. This brings us to the next quote.

Also, nevermind, this isn't a good quote, reading back it also looked like you cherrypicked a few things.

Cows can have more than 1 push at a time. Also im not being manipvulate, we are just misinterpreting each others posts every single time which means this is probably TVT and I want it to end there because this has been dragged on too long(do not nitpick this saying "omg u talked about this after this EXACT word when u said you were done with it")

yea so, just because we have simillar thoughts on VFP doesnt make your vote pool good. I dont agree with your other vote pool in T3/Rocky

You decide to be surprised with my vote pool but later on agree and admit that we may have similar thoughts on VFP. (post 298). So wouldn't we both be capable to lim VFP here? but disagree with my take on T3/rocky. What's wrong with it? You still haven't answered my question I initially asked in 288. Just because you disagree with my vote pool, that doesn't require an input from you saying "What is this vote pool lol"

You were one of my Sr's at the time so I wanted to get reasoning from u. We could both be capable to lim VFP here but before i wrote this post, idk how I felt about me wanting to vote one of my sr's sr's

I make this a clear point and bring cows into question because, look, cows has me and T3 as scum and you have me and VFP as scum. And my vote pool is T3 and VFP (+ rocky), but the point is what's it being different if cows wanted to lim T3? It just felt like you were using this as another way to find me as "scum" with your passive aggressive tone which I don't understand WHY you would in the first place.

Conclusion:

This post frustrated me, not only because it was so manipulative but because I actually townread you hockey. And having this response from you is weird. I was bias earlier in townreading you because I have played with you and you are a friend, but not all friends are the same allignment. I do now want to think you are scum.

I am null - scumleaning you now. And feel like you still have town equity only if someone else or you can convince me otherwise.

I am playing how I usually as town, I also advise you to stop, and reread the game if you are town. Look at my previous scum games, and my town games see why I say what I say as scum, then come to it from a town perspective, why I say what I say as town. Many newbs, like you, just easily use me as liable scum target day 1 and even town will scumread me because I am usually incomprehendable to newbs on the first time. But you are a good player, hockey, and I don't want you costing a lim because you have confbias as town.

I will unvote for now.

UNVOTE:

[/quote]
:badposting:

[HockeyFan]

:badposting:

man I dont wanna SR you but instead of dismissing my post as "bad", can u tell me what u dont like about it?

[VFP]

I mean gut feeling.

ill wise just a virus. I've barely been on site wide.

Okay gotcha.

Hope you feel better.

I wouldn't mind you replacing to get better and focus on your health etc.

Thanks.
I should be fine in a couple of days.
It's also mixed with me disliking day 1 as well, and the fact I'm trying to be less aggressive in Newbie Games early on.

[GrandpaMo]

Its NAI cuz I dont think scum posts smth like that early into the game. Likewise, theres no reason for any VT to claim their role d1 so its not something town should do, so imo its NAI

...how is this not the same thing as 'tstbs' tho? you're saying you don't think scum would post something anti-town so early, which is the exact same thought process as tstbs.

because its full null, I also think town has 0 reason to do this. This is different than tstbs, because if u think they're "tstsbs" you SR them in some sort already which I didnt do

'tstbs' implies a townread.

Once again, I never said "tstbs"

Oh yeah Grandpa is locktown.

ok yea im not fucking taking chances here last time u did this u pocketed me

VOTE: t3

*this is like a half meme/half serious vote*

Okay so since this is a "semi-serious" vote, u better be ACTUALLY pushing it smfh. Dont just leave your vote there as a chance to bw/sheep others. Also how many votes is that on t3 rn? 3? like wtf is going on lmao

theres been 3 votes on t3? holy fuck where have i been

ok well not 3 votes, but 3 ppl are currently pushing this slot(cows,you and VFP), still super ???

I dont understand what the big deal here is? what is so shocking to you about a wagon of 3?

That early into the game is shocking especally when T3 hadnt done anything scummy in eyes

I think I scumread T3 based on meta.

I have bias because everytime T3 calls me town out of the blue with no reasoning, they end up flipping scum. So anytime, I hear those words coming out the mouth -- I get paranio. I usually don't end up voting them until probably day 2.

Bringing back to the point, you said earlier that you didn't why Rocky was scum. I will explain why I think rocky is scum.

They have 15 posts which is fine, but till post 61

I don't know if they were serious with that vote, but I will assume they were meming. They continue to meme.

They finally make a serious read in post 117 which was the WIFOMY thing James said about them claiming to be VT... which is something weird to go into especially considering it being the first genuine read.

In post 220 I actually asked for rocky for their reads (I bring this up because you claim I haven't questioned rocky but I have, rocky just had never replied because their last post is post 164)

They unvote without any reasoning.

I do want to point out that I did agree with rocky in post 164, which is something Rocky could be town for but idk if it's a strong enough reason to call them town.

I haven't voted them yet, because I am still waiting them to come back and give me an updated readlist.

I am also waiting on Beezeburger.

[T3]

Grandpa. vc. Actually though...

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa. vc. Actually though...

gotcha ur town

[HockeyFan]

Grandpa. vc. Actually though...

Love it when u ignore me.

[GrandpaMo]

:badposting:

man I dont wanna SR you but instead of dismissing my post as "bad", can u tell me what u dont like about it?

where did t3 say this

[HockeyFan]

:badposting:

man I dont wanna SR you but instead of dismissing my post as "bad", can u tell me what u dont like about it?

where did t3 say this

a bit hard to see since its in such tiny font, but very bottom left below his pronouns

[fferyllt]

allez